Ruger sr9 VS Beretta 92fs

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by boneman13, Sep 30, 2010.

  1. boneman13

    boneman13 New Member

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    OK so this is my frist time on these threads so go easy on me....I'm planing on buying a handgun here shortly I've been doing some resreach to see which one is going to be the best fit for me. I'm looking for a gun that is very dependable and durable, also looks and feels good in my hand. Right now I think i got it down to two. the beretta 92fs or the ruger sr9. now since the sr9 is still pretty new to the market i have'nt been able to get as much info as i would like on it. i guess i'm just wondering which is gonna be the better buy. I personal love the way that the ruger feels in my hand but have not shot it yet. also the ruger in the od green is a beautiful gun. but the beretta seems to be more... lets say ruged.So i'm pretty well lost here any tips or input?
     
  2. indyfan

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    The Beretta is heavy but accurate. I owned one for a year (traded it in for a Glock 19)

    Pro's of the M92FS:
    Super Accurate
    Reliable
    Exposed Hammer with Decocker (I like that, some people don't)
    Decent Availability of aftermarket parts
    Nice Round Comfortable Grip (if you have small hands this may be an issue)
    Years of World-Wide use makes it one of the proven handguns, years of evolution made it better

    Con's:
    HEAVY (only a problem if you plan on carrying it alot)
    Installing night sights is a pain, requires some major gunsmithing to drill the front sight
    No tactical rail for flashlights or lasers (Unless you get an M9A1 :D )


    I've never fired a SR9, but I've heard horror stories about them going off randomnly, then again who hasn't heard horror stories about any kind of handgun?


    If youre gonna go Polymer, the SR9 isn't your only option...*cough cough Glock cough* Also, WELCOME TO THE FORUMS!
     

  3. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Try to find a range that will allow you to shoot both. Or check out a local range. Some people will gladly allow you to shoot their firearms, as long as it is done is a safe manner (I am one of those people).

    What works for you? Are you looking for target shooting, plinking, self-defense, competition? How do they feel in your "Non-dominant" hand. Can you get accessories like extra mags, holster, etc...?

    Firearms are tools, like a hammer for a carpenter. A tack hammer will not best the best choice for framing a house, just as a framing hammer will not be the best choice for trim work. How will the handgun be used mainly?

    Keep us informed, and good luck.
     
  4. NGIB

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    Two very different guns there. One is large metal frame with exposed hammer & decocker, the other is polymer and striker fired. I've been around and around in the handgun arena and I've basically settled on 2 platforms - 1911s and Sigs. To me, the Sig 228/229 is a great all around 9mm. Small enough for carry, large enough for accuracy and comfort, and has tons of aftermarket support. If you look for a CPO (certified pre owned) they can be had at a reasonable price as well.

    If I had to choose between the 2 you mention, it would be the Beretta as it has stood the test of time - I've had a couple and I just find them a bit large and chunky for what they are.

    I paid a shade over $500 for this CPO P228 that I picked up on Tuesday...

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  5. 007BondJamesBond007

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    The Beretta 92fs has been in use with the US Military for over 25 years. It was one of the most tested pistols and won the contract to replace the 1911. Beretta just got another large contract from the military to build more. Yes it is heavy but lighter then the 1911 if you weigh both empty. It weighs more loaded because 15+1 compared to 8+1. I carry one all day and you get used to the weight and I don't even notice it any more. You can get lots of after market parts for the Beretta and it is easy to do the gun smithing your self. I love the DA/SA of the Beretta and the fact you can pull the hammer back for the first SA pull. The Beretta has a decocker which drops the hammer a nice feature to prevent ND. To lighten the DA trigger pull you can get the Beretta "D" spring for $1.50 from Brownells.
    As for the laser Crimson Trace make a laser grips for the 92. What is nice about the Crimson Trace is the fact of the passive switch located under the trigger guard activates the laser when you grip the gun no fumbling looking for switches. Beretta makes a adjustable rear target sight for the 92fs. It is a dovetail and you can do it your self or have a smith do it for reasonable price. You can get a 22 conversion kit and I believe the Beretta 96 upper fits to change it to 40 S & W. The Beretta is easy to field strip for cleaning and you do not have the pull the trigger like you do on Glocks. The Beretta mags are inexpensive and easy to find 10,15,18,20 round mag at most gun and INet.

    Not to bash the Ruger I have not shot one or looked at one. Ruger makes fine products. I own a Ruger revolver and love it and it been a great work horse.
    The Beretta 92 is one of my favorite pistols and I am a 1911 snob. I cringed when I heard the Air Force was going to replace the 1911 with a 9 mm Beretta.
     
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  6. NGIB

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    The Air Force used S&W Combat Masterpiece (Model 15) revolvers prior to the M9. I qualified on them a couple of times during my career...
     
  7. 007BondJamesBond007

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    I know I had one to work with the Minuteman I needed to qualify with the S & W AR, and Remmy 870. I was not a SP. The 1911 was mostly used by FAC's and Para Rescue in Vietnam. Pilots had S & W and AR 7 if they were downed it depended on the unit.
     
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  8. FCross7

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    I can't say much for either of the two mentioned, as I haven't held or shot either. I think a lot can be said for the fact that the Beretta has been in use in the military for so long (take that for what it's worth). I have a buddy who has the Ruger SR9 and absolutely loves it. Once again, take that for what it's worth.

    My opinion? Before you do anything, I would definitely give CZ a look. Specifically, the CZ SP-01. Very similar in size and weight to the Beretta, but from a lot of things I've read and people I've talked to, the CZ is "better", but remember, advice is worth what you pay for it. What I can tell you however is that my CZ is absolutely my favorite pistol so far and I would recommend it to anyone without a second's though. It had been 100% reliable for the 600 rounds I've put through it, extremely accurate (much more accurate than I am), easy to field strip, clean and maintain. At first, the trigger was a little gritty in both Single and Double Action, but that gets better after 1000 rounds or so. Or you can just do like I did and polish the trigger bar, sear and hammer, which made a world of difference.

    They have the standard model with a thumb safety, a decocker version, as well as one with a polymer frame. All come with night sights. And from what I just saw on gunbroker, the SP01 and 92fs and around the same price.

    I know there are some others here who have CZ's and will agree with me when I say don't buy anything without giving them a look first.

    -Fred
     
  9. boneman13

    boneman13 New Member

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    Thank guys for the input...but this is kinda what i was talking about no one has much to say about the ruger i guess i need the pro's and cons of the ruger sr9 as well. Here's the problem the way the ruger feel in my hand is great...where as the beretta i have yet to hold it but just by looks seem a bit bulky in the grip. but again the durable and dependable factor still is huge for me. It seems like beretta might be the better way to go but i deff need to get out and pop off some rounds with both guns. i guess i just need alittle more info on the ruger and just an overall good comparison of the two.......now the sig's are great gun i personaly have wanted a p226 for quite some time the problem with that is there a little pricey for me and there's no manual saftey from what i have seen. Now don't get me wrong i know how to handle a gun and not haveing the manual safety is not a big deal to me...BUT...my old lady feels a little diffrent on that subject....did you hear that whip:D? anyways i love the look and feel of the sig but i'm not willing to buy a used gun just to get that gun cheaper and i can't justify buying an 800 dollar gun.

    now glocks i don't have much expernice with glock but from just holding a few i don't really like how they feel bit to blocky for me i guess... but from what i hear the are excellent guns. ... thanks again for your input guys
     
  10. NGIB

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    With rare exceptions, all of my guns were used. As far as Sig goes, you can get a certified pre-owned (CPO) Sig that has been tested & certified for much less than a new one.

    Bottom line is you're going to have to try some out on the range as shooting a gun is much different than just holding one in a store...
     
  11. ElvisIsDead

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    You've asked a very big Ford vs Chevy type question here. You'll get 100 different answers and everyone is right. The bottom line is it comes down to personal preference.

    The Beretta is a strong, solid, tough built gun that has proven itself for decades. It has high capacity and is very accurate.

    The SR9 is lighter and easier to carry for long periods of time. Also high capacity. Also accurate. The SR9 is somewhat new but Ruger has been a household name in firearms for decades as well.

    My opinion is the Beretta will be a little more accurate on follow up shots but that is due to the weight and less recoil. It is made of metal and weighs a lit more than the SR9. More recoil makes for less accuracy on the second, third, fourth and so on shots in a rapid fire situation. The Beretta will have much less recoil but much more weight. Some people want less recoil and the most accurate shots all the time and are willing to accept the extra weight for that added accuracy. Others want a light weight gun to carry all day and are willing to accept the extra recoil for the less weight. Both have good points. Both are somewhat right and somewhat wrong. Again I say it is personal preference.

    I myself would go with the metal Beretta but I like old school shooting. I prefer a revolver over a semi auto any day. The plastic guns gained fame with Glock and many other gun makers copied Glock and made their own plastic guns. I didn't care for the Glock Craze when they came out over 20 years ago and I don't care for all the other guns that mimic Glock but that again comes down to personal preference. Glock has been a hot seller for well over 20 years. They must be doing something right. I just don't care for plastic guns myself.

    If you have a chance shoot both of them side by side and choose based on your personal preference and experience.
     
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  13. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Some auctions on line have excellent pictures with the firearm complete and broken down. I have bought some new ones, but like NGIB, most were used. There are deals to be had if you look around.

    Good luck.
     
  14. Shihan

    Shihan Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I prefer the SR9 over the 92 for Concealed Carry. Both are fine weapons. The choice is going to boil down to what you like.
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  15. Major Kusanagi

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    :rolleyes:

    While I may not know much about the SR9 I do know one thing boneman13, DO NOT buy a Sigma.

    I know what I am suggesting probably isn't the greatest idea in the world, but if I were you I would go on Youtube and check out some user submitted reviews on the Ruger SR9. There are quite of few that are pretty good in giving the pros and cons of the platform. Granted if I were you I would take any biases with a grain of salt, but there some great points that are made in those videos. Also, check out some gun review sites and Ruger's forum on the platform as well. Last but not least, if there is a range that can let you check out the platform then by all means take advantage of it. I hope what little I have to offer can help you some in your inquiries. :)
     
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  16. boneman13

    boneman13 New Member

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    K so no sigma huh...well had'nt really planned on the sigma....BBBUUUTTT whats so wrong with the sigma?...my buddy was actual planning on buying it in the .40. what have you heard or exprience with it?...k so i'm leaning on the beretta but you guys are right i just need to get ahold of them and see what works. thanks for all the input guys
     
  17. Jpyle

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    Think you nailed it here. Doesn't matter what we think as long as no one has FIRSTHAND experience or knowledge of either the Beretta or Ruger going boom in their hand or being absolute junk you should choose what works for you, feels right in your hand and is something you can shoot with confidence.

    Both Beretta and Ruger are regarded as quality gunmakers so reliability and after sale support should not be an issue with either one.
     
  18. Shihan

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    There is nothing wrong with it IMO, most complaints you will hear is over the trigger being hard and gritty. Not a real issue to me. I am going to get out and do a in depth review and range report on the Sigma. For the money it is every bit as good as a Glock.
     
  19. 2hot2handle

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    Well I have arrived to sing the praises of the SR9! :p

    I've had my SR9 for about 2 years now and don't have any complaints with it. Like you said it is comfortable (different for everyone of course) I like the reversible back strap with the larger side out. It just makes the firearm feel more stable in my hand. I've probably only around a measly 1,500 rounds through her and she's performed flawlessly except for the stove piping of limp wristers. About three months ago I was cleaning my SR9 and noticed some unusual wear on the interior of the slide around where the guide rod goes. about 1mm of metal appeared to have chipped off :eek:. It was taken to Gander Mountain who directly shipped it to Ruger, three weeks later (a bit long I know) I received my SR9 back with a completely new slide. NO CHARGE got to love warranties :D Some have complained about a gritty trigger but as others on the interwebs have mentioned I can back up the fact that the trigger smooths out considerable after about 500 rounds down the pipe.

    so to sum up

    Pro's- Feels good in my hand, got to love buying from Ruger in the good ol' US of A (idk if Berreta is American made?), people with no aiming capability like me enjoy the capability of the 17+1 capacity. Tactical rail if you so choose to employ it (mine is naked and I like her that way :p), it has a good weight and over all I've had no problems with the firearm other than the unusual wear on the slide which was completely replaced and payed for by Ruger

    Con's- only real con for me is that it took Ruger three weeks to get the firearm back to me, but when they cover the charge I find myself willing to let that go.
     
  20. indyfan

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    ive heard bad things about crimson trace