Ruger Scout Rifle.

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by TNFrank, Dec 24, 2012.

  1. TNFrank

    TNFrank New Member

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    So, with all the hype over a coming semi-auto ban it seems that they've been selling like hot cakes but having owned many of them over the years I'm simply not all that interested in these sub-caliber rifles. I'd much rather have something like a Ruger Scout Rifle in a full rifle caliber. Problem is that I'm getting bursitis in my shoulders and can't take the recoil of a full power rifle cartridge, even the .308Win, anymore. Does anyone know if Ruger has plans on bring their Scout Rifle out in .243Win or .260Rem in the near future?
     
  2. JonM

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    since your in a suppressor friendly state i would strongly recommend looking at getting a 308 bolt gun and adding a suppressor to it. it practically eliminates 90% of the recoil and most of the sound. its like firing a .223 semi-auto. supressors are much better at taming recoil than muzzle brakes.

    my wife shoots a savage 10 fcp-sr with a supressor and she handles it just fine. my 11 year old nephew was able to shoot it like a pro without any trouble
     

  3. TNFrank

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    Not really interested in jumping through all the hoops, paying a tax or being placed on a Federal List that says I have anything that falls under the NFA.
    Also, being unemployed I won't be able to buy anything until we get our tax return money back early next year.
    I really think a Ruger Scout Rifle in .234Win would be awesome. Ruger can use the same action and bolt, just have to put a different barrel on the gun and they'd have it. Same for the .260 Remington, which I've read actually shoots flatter then a .300Win Mag over 800 or so yards.
     
  4. JonM

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    well if you got a social security number your already on a government list. and since your on a computer on a gun website your on em too. espcially if you have ever visited info wars. you may even be on a terrorist watch list for going to that site heh

    your not going to see any great decrease in recoil unless you go to a intermediate cartridge like a 223. the diff tween a 234 and a 308 is minor.
     
  5. TNFrank

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    I've shot both over the years and the 243 has a lot less recoil then the 308. Heck, "back in the day" in '89 when I worked for McMilian Arms helping to build the M-88's in 50BMG I got to shoot them a lot so recoil didn't use to be a problem for me at all. It's just that some 23 years later my shoulders just can't take what they use to. .243Win will still have enough reach without the recoil.
     
  6. JTJ

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    You can get the Ruger 77 Compact in 243. It does not have the scout stuff on it but it has the short barrel, is lighter and cheaper.
     
  7. locutus

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    IMHO, the whole "scout rifle" concept is as goofy as it's founbder.

    Another solution looking for a problem.:rolleyes:
     
  8. HockaLouis

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    You can (or could) get the German scout rifle in .243. Savage's in 7.62x39. The BLR, for sure (ooo, a .243 take-down'd be nice in stainless laminate with the scout mount).

    I wonder if Ruger is selling the Scout Rifle in the numbers they'd hoped. When you see it in other calbers, especially the .243 which would be the next natural chambering I'd think, you'll know.

    Now, being unemployed, just as I'm cautious, do you NEED this new rifle when your tax refund comes or is it a bit of a luxury at the moment, if you don't mind my asking?
     

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  9. TNFrank

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    I currently only have one gun, my Glock G19. I'd like a long gun of somekind to go with my one and only handgun since a handgun isn't the best weapon to have during a SHTF situation. If the Yugo M24/47 Mausers weren't so dang expensive I could get one on my C&R and cut out the middle man but at close to $300 I could pick up a Savage bolt gun in a more common and less recoiling caliber locally for the same amount of money.
    I'd also like to get a Remington 870 20ga shotgun for home defense and hunting use. Of course something like a Ruger 10/22 would be a good, usable little rifle to have too.
    I really hope the New Year will bring me a job but since Obama got re-elected I really am not holding out much hope.
    My wife as a decent job and all the bills are paid on time and we're caught up on everything. She said that it'd be ok to spend a little of the tax return money on a long gun, I just want to get the most "bang for the buck" and make a logical choice here so as not to waste what little money I'll have to spend.
     
  10. JTJ

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    Ruger American and Marlin X series are both available in 243 and have good ratings. About $310 on line.
    I was skeptical about the scout concept so I set us a Mini in the scout configuration. Surprised me. I am using a 2.5x pistol scope and it works much better than I expected.
     
  11. TNFrank

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    One of the main reasons for the Scout Concept was to allow easy loading of the bolt action since you'd not have a scope blocking the magazine. Also, with a low power variable scope like a 1.5-6x or 2-7x you could still use it for close in work and crank up the power for longer shots.
     
  12. HockaLouis

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    And light, short, powerful, accurate, dependable, with a sling, fast target acquiring, high peripheral vision...

    To paraphrase Mark Twain, common sense is not so common.
     
  13. TNFrank

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    Yep, that's the Scout Concept in a nut shell. As much as they like to demonize the semi-autos I dare them to say anything against an old fashion, bolt action "Hunting Rifle" which is just what a Scout Rifle is.
    I think in the Real World a good Scout Rifle would work better then many of the semis that folks use once you stretch out the range to 300+ yards.
    I personally am one who thinks that rifles should be used for longer ranges and not CQB even though many do use AR's and M4's for CQB. I think a shotgun is a much better choice for CQB then a carbine or rifle.
     
  14. Flat Tire

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    This is new from Browning, threaded 20" barrel and four different calibers, I want one.

    http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?fid=001B&cid=035&tid=713


    Most of the swat teams use the AR15 as the primary weapon and many would rather carry more mags than a backup pistol. If you put a short barrel on an AR15 you end up with quite a QCB package. You would need a Short Barrel Permit for anything under 16".
     
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  15. TNFrank

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    Nobody wants sights, everyone wants to put on a scope or red dot.
     
  17. TNFrank

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    Then they're being unrealistic. Scopes and red dots WILL fail, it's just a matter of having the gun fall or having the batteries go deal and you're screwed. At least with sights you can remove the scope/red dot and still be able to hit something. Any bolt action I buy WILL have sights as a back up to the scope that's going on it.
     
  18. HockaLouis

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    I believe that's one of Cooper's guidances for a Scout Rifle too -- goofy Ghost Ring iron sights if only for backup.

    Savage has made that gun for a while -- I think I mentioned Savage.
     
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  19. locutus

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    And with a detachable box magazine, why do you need access for stripper clips?????:confused::confused:
     
  20. TNFrank

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    Didn't say anything about stripper clips, for loading the gun one round at a time from the top(as many bolt actions are loaded) it's just easier to do without a scope in the way.