Ruger mini 14

Discussion in 'Mini-14 Forum' started by SoL, Nov 24, 2008.

  1. SoL

    SoL New Member

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    Are these worth the while?

    They go for $2000 NEW here in new Zealand.

    I got a brand new last gen (metal triggergroup) Ruger 10/22 carbine for about $500 a year ago.

    Do these prices seem about right?

    Are you all gonna tell me to get some kind of AR 15?
     
  2. matt g

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    If you want the Mini for zapping coyotes and ground hogs on the ranch, they're a good choice. If you're looking for something that will accurately provide sustained fire, you're better off looking elsewhere. Even the new Minis get hot quick and once they do, the shots will walk everywhere.

    Looks like the NZ Dollar sits at about 63 US cents, so $2000*.63= $1260. I'm not sure what sort of taxes and tariffs you guys have to deal with, but $1200 seems really excessive. You can pick up a brand new Mini in the States for about $800.
     
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  3. Dillinger

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    1) - No, I don't personally believe the Mini is a worthwhile model.

    2) - No, Matt's right. That price seems excessive unless it comes with optics and some other goodies ( extra mags, range bag, mouth hug :D )

    3) - Um, well, for the money....:rolleyes:

    JD
     
  4. hudd357mag

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    Personally I have 2 mini14s and I like them both a lot. One I have converted with a bullpup stock. Both are good plinkers and are accurate but I rarely shoot over 220 yards. Take it for what it is worth. $2000? Yikes you must have some import tariffs to satisfy the govt. I paid $500 for one and $600 for the Stainless with folding stock. Both used by excellent condition. I also have a 223 SL8 HK. Hk is super accurate but front heavy (heavy barrel) and hard to shoot from standing position. Thats all the personal experience I have. Good luck with your purchase.
     
  5. argyle

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    It's less a case of taxes and tariffs than of oceans and distance. NZ is a long way from anywhere - even Australia - and everything has to be shipped in from a long distance away. It's also not the most lucrative market in the world, and nowhere nearly as consumer oriented as the US (except when it comes to electronic gear.) To give a baseline - when I was there in 2000, the NZ$ was right at 2:1 to the US$. A 6-pack of Budweiser was $18 NZ. Last spring a friend of mine in NZ and I both bought new Triumph Bonnevilles. She paid just about 50% more than I did (corrected for current exchange rates).

    So, $1200 for a gun that costs $800 here is probably fairly consistent with other prices. There are still better guns for the money, though.
     
  6. Dillinger

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    No kidding! - I would rather be aggressively manhandled by Bobo the Idiot Circus Chimp than fork over that kind of money for a Mini-14. :eek:
     
  7. CA357

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    I have a Mini 14 stainless with the 16" barrel and I love it. It does exactly what it was designed to do. It's an excellent brush gun/varmint killer out to around 100yds. It's a quick shooter and has decent sights.

    They get a bad rap because people want them to be target or assault rifles. They weren't designed for sustained fire either. They do what they were meant for very well.

    It seems to me that price differential or not, an AR type rifle will serve you better and give you what you're looking for.

    CA357 ;)
     
  8. SoL

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    you bloody bloody..

    bloody NZ and its expensive american guns.


    My friend just bought a Remmy 597 in 22wmr for $1200. and its basically a knob box. The 22wmr ruger 10/22 eqivalent would have been $900. And the remmington is just a flagrantly poor design and the magazine construction is bollocks. Could be that its not 'broken in' yet, still sucks.

    We dont have coyotes or praire dogs here, it'll be many rabbits, possums, and goats. so its more of a pepper hun designed for shortish to medium range use in a VERY target rich environment, the remmy 597 heats up chronically in this application so im guessing a mini 14 wouldnt be prudent. damnit, i like em.

    we dont have governemtn tarrifs or anything here, you just need to be licensed, then you are free to procure. But the gun trade being kinda monopolised by our "Gun City" brand can chage whatever the mack they want.

    $9,999 for a bullpup steyr with a 10 round mag.
    $4999 for a garand
    $6999 for an m1 carbine,

    that being said I can get .303s out the whazoo for about 70 - 80 bucks.

    I'm a massive ruger 10/22 fan/convert. Granted it was my frist semi, but i still havent found a rimfire semi that tops it.

    lousy new zealand :p ah well, at least we have shotguns without suppressor restrictions :p same with pistols, you just have to be licensed.


    oh yeah we also get Norinco firearms, which are INCREDIBLY cheap (200 300 here) and very good performers. great value.
     
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  9. SoL

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  10. matt g

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    One thing you might want to look into is a Norinco M305. It's a copy of an American M14. It looks like they sell in Canada for about $400 CDN, so you should be able to pick one up down there for about $550ish NZ.

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  11. SoL

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    yeah man, i found one of them at Gun City, $1300 with scope rail and a synthetic stock.
     
  12. matt g

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    $1300 for a Norinco? I see you dilemma.
     
  13. Laufer

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    SoL:

    My Norinco SKS is a great value for a very low price last spring.
    Lots of simple fun. Could bet my life on that rifle.

    Can you buy fairly cheap Russian (non-corrosive) ammo?
     
  14. SoL

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    yeah, depending on what quantity you buy.

    In the hundreds they are about NZ$0.30 a round.

    so their sks is decent eh?
    what would that rock my wallet by?
     
  15. sgtdeath66

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    wow glad i dont live in NZ, those prices are mindblowing. whats the current average hourly wage over there
     
  16. SoL

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    i think that its about $13.00 or $14.00

    Our currency is kinda interesting.

    Trust me, USA sounds really prime for a hunter/gun nut like myself.

    Though I guess post 9 11 there's no way an immigrant could buy up guns.

    This is the cool thing though,
    to you guys Im sure that most of you grew up with dads m1 garand or carbine.

    You are surrounded by what to me in my absolute foreignness are incredibly sought after collecters items here that I could never DREAM of affording, no carbine calibre ammo here either apparently.
    whereas I grew up with basicly any rural person having an Enfield .303 in the closet. You can pick up one of them for between 50 and 100 bucks NZ.

    is it rare for you to come across these?
     
  17. sgtdeath66

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    no idea, but i could imagine they would probly be more expensive over here
     
  18. M14sRock

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    Enfields are a bit more money here, but very plentiful. You can still get a decent sample for about $150USD. A bit less, a bit more.
     
  19. Recon 173

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    Mini-14s are not accurate. Go with a good Enfield or AR-15 type rifle with a scope mounted on it. A good scoped Enfield in .303 caliber will handle the overwhelming majority of your shooting needs as far as medium and large animals go. It will also work very well against two legged predators too. Mounting even a not-so-expensive straight $X scope on an Enfield gives you a lot better advantage over most other shooters if you practice a little bit. If you can get the .308 caliber Enfields, you can also locate some higher quality grade match ammo to use which will make that Enfield even a better choice than one in .303 caliber.
     
  20. SoL

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    I've had about 7 303s in my young life already, and had a nice sporterised SMLE with a scope on it, it was alright, a bit cumbersome for my liking.

    Im much more into an M1 carbine style peppergun.

    Hence me asking about the mini 14, big brother of the 10/22 which is by a long shot is my favourite .22 ever.