i started this thread to combat what i perceive as myths regarding mini 14 accuracy. the truth is, i almost didn't buy a mini 14 after researching the rifle. i would come across examples posters had written all over the web, saying things like "don't bother to scope a mini, you can't even hit a can at 100 yards." or claiming 6" + groups from their minis. and of course "if you want to accurize it, it will cost you $800." and of course the ever famous, "buy an AR." well, i didn't want an AR....still not very interested in them (just a preference). from my perspective these posts are either made by a small groups of individuals who got a lemon & continue to post over & over, or those who, for whatever reason...hate the firearm. i'm hoping someone interested in the mini 14 comes accross my post. the mini 14 isn't a perfect rifle, but it is a fine alternative to an AR, and the accuracy is definately "good enough." my mini is about a 2" shooter. i have no problems hitting what i am for. the only mod i have made is a strut & some minor tinkering. about a $100 bucks invested, not the $800 i keep hearing about. here's how my 580 series shoots. only mod accustrut and a few cheap fixes.