Ruger M77 in 6mm Rem

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by uncpudge, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. uncpudge

    uncpudge New Member

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    I was just handed down an older Ruger M77 in 6mm Rem. For being an older rifle it's in really nice shape. I haven't heard alot of comments about this caliber. Does anyone have any experience with 6mm ? Any comments would be appreciated. Was thinking about throwing a 3x9-40 on it and using it as a deer gun.
     
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  2. hardluk1

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    It is the orgininal" .243". Remington made a cartidge called the .244 in 1953 it was not excepted well, shielved and brought back as the 6mm rem in the early 60's. And winchester intro'ed the 243 in '57. The remington 6mm just never was excepted as well as the 243 but is a slightly faster round . Its a solid deer round with heavier bullets and a good coyote / heavy varment round with light loads. Theres a good ammo choice today with many bullets types factory loaded again but priceir than the 243. basically any thing you read about the 243 the 6mm will do just a bit better.

    You do have a good deer rifle. Go over to midway or sportmans guide for a look at current ammo avalible. Scope , yep a 3-9 or 3-12 will do fine. I like a bit more power to help with getting a better view. Gota post a photo of your rifle.
     

  3. uncpudge

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    Thanks for the great info hardluk !! Will take a picture and post it up tonight if I have time after work. Much appreciated !!
     
  4. cottontop

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    I too have a 6mm Remington. Actually, it is a .244 Remington in one of the original Remington M722 short bolt actions. Being a .244 and not a 6mm Remington, (they actually are the same cartridge and are interchangeable) my rifle has a 1 in 12 rifiling twist which will not stablize the longer 100 grain spitzer bullets. When the cartridge was brought out the second time in the 6mm Remington, the guns were given a 1 in 9 twist which would stabilize the 100 grain bullet. However, the .244 will stabilize the 90 grain bullet which is just as affective on deer as the 100 grain. Being a reloader, I prefer the 6mm Remington over the .243 Winchester because of the longer neck and the slightly greater powder capasity. You can't find a better varmint cartridge and it is no slouch on deer either. You have one heck of a nice rifle. The down side is the expense and availability of ammo. Might be a good time to start reloading.
    cottontop
     
  5. uncpudge

    uncpudge New Member

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    Wow, thanks for sharing that info cottontop. It's funny you mentioned reloading because I was given the 6mm dies along with the rifle. I have reloaded handgun ammunition but never rifle. Time to go buy some supplies :D
     
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  6. uncpudge

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    Here is the pics for you guys who are interested. Sorry that they aren't the best.
     

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  7. The 6mm is a really nice catridge. I like it much better than the .243 because you can more easily neck resize the brass because of the longer neck. I have a Ruger #1 in 6mm that I bought in 1982. I love that gun, and have used it extensively for prarie dogs. The 70 grain Sierra boattail gets out of the 26-inch barrel at a little over 3600 fps and literally vaporizes any prarie dogs you hit at 300 yards and under. I have made shots with it out to 500 yards. You have a great rifle, I hope you have as much fun shooting it as I have had with mine.
     
  8. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Think of the 6MM as a .243 on steroids.:D

    If you handload, it's much easier to load than the .243.
     
  9. uncpudge

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    Thanks, I'm looking forward to throwing a scope on her and taking her to the range. Will be using this rifle during deer season this year instead of the old .30 .30.
     
  10. Durangokid

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    The 6MM Remington was based on a German Ctg. which also uses the 7x57 case. The .243 was based on the .308 short necked case. The .243 is just not as reloader friendly as the 6MM. The .243 WCF was introduced in the famed Pre 64 Mdl. 70 Winchester rifle. Back in the 50s you had a Mdl. 70 or you wanted one. The Remington rifles of the day were 2nd best. Had the Mdl. 70 been chambered in the 6MM it would have made it regardless of the twist rates.:)
     
  11. hardluk1

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    duragokid the .244 aka 6mm rem was designed from the reminton commercial 257 roberts case. The 257 roberts wildcat round was made from 7x57 brass. The .244rem is very close to the 7x57 but not the tru parent cartidge. Also the 721/722 and the later fanceier 725 rifles are still around today and buy far the best rifles for some years out. The 700 of today is just a cost cutting version of the earlier 721,2 and 5 rifles. And with the "new 243 "was offered in 1955 in the model 88 along side the model 70. The 88 was another great rifle design that just did not make it. To bad. The best guns of those days was buy far the 721/722 and 725 remington of the days. After the 700 came out the quality drop a a bit.
     
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    The Germans necked the 7X57 down to a .257 years before Ned Roberts sold it as his idea. Ned made some changes E.I. Dupoint Labs made some minor changes. The 88 Winchester was a fine rifle. The problem was not enough people would buy it, so it was dropped. The old Remingtons were OK for folks who could not afford the "Riflemans Rifle". The Mdl. 70 was the Pace Setter for civilans and the Military. That all changed after 1963.:(
     
  13. primer1

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    +mmmmmm interesting. Hope nobody gets offended the Germans did it first. Like ethanol, remote control warheads, etc.
     
  14. hardluk1

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    I would still rather own a early remmy 720 series than a winny for the day or today if both are in like condition. Winny just made a another copy of a mauser. Oh the 88 is no longer made??? no sht. if you remember even winny had to screw with your so loved model 70. Not a single winny in my house, but then again no remmy 700 ether only the model 788 and other brands.
     
  15. jwester2

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    You got a dandy in the M77. It looks like an earlier model with the tang safety. These rifles were built with Douglas barrels. Bill Ruger did not make his own barrels at the start and did not wish to get a bad reputation to start with. And this is a very strong action. My 6mm, 7mm mag and 300 win mag are all this early model and they all shoot half minute of angle or better at 100 yds with max or near max loads. I was so confident in this gun that I shot a deer thru the fork of a tree in the neck. Don't waste this gun on factory ammo. Load your own. And the Europeans began necking down the 7X57 (got one of these in Mod 98 Mauser with a 24 inch Douglas sporter on it) to .25 and .24 was a natural progression