Ruger LCP, Kel-Tec P3AT, or North American Guardian?

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by Lowrider, Apr 18, 2009.

  1. Lowrider

    Lowrider New Member

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    Looking for a pocket gun and am looking at the three above. Would like to hear opinions on witch of the three you would pick. Feel free to point me to another choice, but pick one of these also.

    I have been told that the North American is a much better choice and will last longer than the Ruger or Kel-Tec. Came close to buying one today, but held off for some research.
     
  2. hunter Joe

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    We can't keep a Ruger LCP in stock. Heard a lot of good things about them but have not had a chance to shoot one. They becoming very popular. I hate Kel-Tecs, but that's just my opinion. Had one in 40 S&W and the dang thing jambed all the time.
     
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  3. 30-30remchester

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    Cant talk about the North American, but wife has a Keltec 380 acp and I have a Ruger LCP. Both have functioned flawlessly for about 200 rounds each. The advantage of either is that they are lightweight and easily concealable. I wear mine 16 hours a day without noticing its there, and I work construction that envolves much bending and climbing. Wish I could use something else but cant find one that meets such comfort requirements. If it is not comfortable then you leave it at home.To boost its knockdown power I use Buffalo Bore ammo staggering the magazine alternatly between 90 grain Speer Gold Dots and their 95 grain flat nosed full metal jacket plus P ammo.
     
  4. Lowrider

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    I'd like to hear someone that has run through a bunch of ammo in an LCP. The guy at the local shop implied that the Kel-Tec and the LCP would not last if you shot it much at all, but the NAA could be shot every weekend and hold up.
     
  5. 30-30remchester

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    While I have never shot a North American I know they are of high quality and are made of steel, while the Ruger and Keltec are part plastic,and some stamped steel parts. I am an Avid admirer of quality firearms and these are the only two I own with plastic parts. How I wish they were made of milled steel! However they are lightweight and so I carry one 16 hours a day without notice. So I would reasonable assume that they will not stand up to constant use as a steel one would I feel comfortable they will withstand what they were intended to do. Shot occasional practice session and be there when needed for self defense.
     
  6. stalkingbear

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    I have a Ruger LCP and it has functioned flawlessly with anything I've fed it so far being about 600 rounds. I did polish the throat and relieve around the magazine release in order to reach it better when under stress. It's still secure against accidental release however. I pack my LCP in strong side front pocket ALL the time and an extra loaded mag in the other side front pocket, along with keys, billfold, and my ever present skoal can. My LCP IS a backup to my .45 "pocket pistol" that I carry mexican carry IWB with a clipdraw-no holster needed.
     
  7. Biohazurd

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    For .380 the gun i prefer is a Bersa Thunder .380 Ive shot a bunch of other brands and models but for the caliber this is my favorite.
     
  8. greenr19

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    I love my Ruger LCP. I have about 500 rounds through it with no problems. It easily slips right into my pocket and goes everywhere with me.
     
  9. scot228

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    Wait before you buy

    June Kahr is going to start shipping there new P380 smaller than the Kel-Tec and Taurus will also be shipping there .380 also.
     
  10. Lowrider

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    The Kahr looks very good. Costs a lot more than the Ruger or Kel-Tec, but does look very nice.
     
  11. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    It won't matter. You can't hardly find .380 ammo these days.
     
  12. Gojubrian

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    Yep ,get something you can find ammo for.......22 rimfire? ;)
     
  13. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    Just for kicks, thought I'd go find me some .380 ammo yesterday since I happen to have several 380's... I went to:

    3 Wal Marts= 0 ammo
    2 Academy = 2 boxes Winchester FMJ
    1 Bass Pro = 0 ammo
    1 Cabela's = 1 box Wolf FMJ 1 box Cor Bon
    4 Local Shops= 0 ammo


    That's it! ELEVEN stores, and I came home with only 4 boxes of .380's. The prices sucked too. Academy 9.40 per box, Cabelas Wolf was 9.30 per box and 24.70 for 20 rounds of CorBon.

    I added these to my collection of 18 boxes I already had in storage. NO MORE 380's for me!
     
  14. stalkingbear

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    While Kahr are good guns, the kahr is only .3" shorter than the Ruger LCP & has msrp 2.3 times that of the LCP!!!



     
  15. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    I guess what's irritating is that, the fact that the 380 has always been considered the armpit of handhuns. As a kid, I was embarrased to let anyone know I had a 380. I'd tell em' it's my moms gun... .22's were the plinkers of choice. I have several 380's. A CZ83, a Makarov, and a Kel Tec P3AT. They serve their purpose well. And, they "used" to be CHEAP to plink. NOT ANY MORE....
     
  16. Taipan

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    Makarov if I may...

    I'd like to suggest something ENTIRELY different. I have a Makarov IJ70-18A (9x18) for my daily carry. It fires flawlessly, and eats everything I put in it. I once pulled a half eaten McDonalds hamburger out of the trash, and put it in the magazine...it fired that too!!! The ammo is cheap, and it's easy to carry in the waist band, but isn't as light as the others mentioned. It's almost exactly the same size and shape as the Walther PP. Try one out, I think you'll like it!
     
  17. Lowrider

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    Well, I went by a local shop to see if they had one of my options and saw this and fell in lust. Can't get much futher from a pocket gun than that.
     

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  18. Mark F

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    I have an old Makarov. Yeah, it eats everyting... and barks everytime. I don't carry it though. It's in my truck.
     
  19. Lowrider

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    Not much of a concensus. I guess I'll take whichever one I can find first.
     
  20. ChuckMc1

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    I own a Ruger LCP and it has become my closest friend. It goes everywhere with me. I have bigger friends, but they are not always with me, simply because there are times I want total concealability. I looked at the Kel-tec but the machining was not quite as fine as the LCP. I will admit that while shooting the little sucker you need to hold on tight... I have felt it slip a few times. All in all I am very happy with the LCP. The extra mag I carry with it is also very small and concealable.
    Remember, the first rule in a gun fight, is to have a gun!