Ruger Gunsight Scout Rifle....???

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by SurfGuitar, Jul 4, 2013.

  1. SurfGuitar

    SurfGuitar New Member

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    Being mainly a handgun shooter, my desire to shoot rifles runs hot & cold. I've had several over the years from .22lr to 30-06 and darn near everything in between. Bolts, levers, pumps, single shots, and several semi-autos, what I do know for sure is, I personally prefer bolt action rifles for their simplicity of operation, ease of cleaning and maintenance, and accuracy. I also prefer shooting through a decent set of iron sights over using scopes. I'm not a hunter.....(unless the sh*t hits the fan, and I have to eat)...... my range only has a 100 yard rifle range, so even with corrective bi-focals I have no real need of optics, and I just want one good defensive rifle just in case it comes to that......!!!

    I like the whole concept of the scout rifle, battle type iron sights with the option of mounting two types of scopes if you so desire. What I would really like is one chambered for .223 Rem, but no one makes a scout rifle with iron sights in that caliber, but the Ruger has everything else I'm looking for, so I guess it's the direction I'll have to go.....

    I'd like to hear from others who have one of these rifles, how is the over all quality, function, accuracy, ease of handling, and recoil.....?
    Also, what type of sling are you using on it, and what type of ammo do they shoot best.....???
     
  2. JTJ

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    You are probably aware that there is a difference between 223 and 5.56x45 and it is not recommended to shoot the 5.56 in 223 chambers. A lot of the 223 rifles have 1:12 twist rates are are not suitable for bullets over 55 grains. While not a scout, the Mossberg MVP (1:9) is chambered in 5.56x45 and utilizes AR mags. Nice rifle but no iron so you will need optics. I have the 20". Savage makes a scout in their police series. 308 and 7.62x39. Not a bolt but the Ruger Mini 14 is easy to make into a scout by adding an Amiga front rail. The mini is very easy to disassemble when there is no scope over the action. Makes a nice package and runs on a piston gas system. The newer ones are fairly accurate and the Amiga helps the accuracy. Factory mags run from 5 to 30 rounds. I like the 20's.
     

  3. hq357

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    Have you heard of the mossberg mvp? Its a pretty nice rifle i think im going to pick one up myself it accepts any ar15 mag and its chambered for 556 and you can still shoot 223 heres some pics i found on the web

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  4. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    I picked up the Mossberg MVP Varmint, love it; however, the rifle stills needs some more range time. I was going this morning; but, being the fourth the range is packed!

    I was at the military exchange yesterday and had the Ruger Ranch Rifle which is .223/5.56 version.

    I like this rifle or the wood stock; but, come home with another mouth to feed and the boss will be mad.

    http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14RanchRifle/specSheets/5805.html

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    I did a query on Ruger for the Scout and the only version was .308 model's. I do not like them for their scope placement is too far forward.
     
  5. JTJ

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    I was concerned about the forward scope placement too so I put together a Mini 30 with an Amiga rail. Low mounted a 2.5x pistol scope and was amazed at how fast and well it handled. Sold the 30 but now have a new model14 and will probably set it up the same way. Not having a scope over the action makes a big difference in taking the Mini down for cleaning. Makes it easier on a bolt action too.
     
  6. CHLChris

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    I like hq357's setup with the standard setup of their scope. I think the best aspect of the Ruger GS Scout is that it is box-magazine-fed.

    Most 308 rifle with a box magazine either have only 4 rounds or cost $2500.

    But I'd rather not use a 2.5x scout scope for a rifle chambered in something that can actually reach out to 600 yards. I'd much rather have a 3-12x scope mounted above the action.
     
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  7. JTJ

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    The Gunsight Scout was not designed to be a 600 yard rifle. What you want and what the OP wants are 2 different things. He want irons and you want optics. They do make variable pistol scopes. I have a 2-8X. By the way, you can get a mag kit for the Howa/Vanguard.
     
  8. SurfGuitar

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    The Mini-14 doesn't do it for me, I have one, a new one at that, and even with an Accu-Strut installed, the accuracy is marginal at best. Besides they are a task when breaking down for a full cleaning compared to a bolt action.
    Not interested in a semi-auto, had AR's, M1A's, and I'm on my second Mini-14.

    I looked at the variety of .223 / 5.56mm bolt guns offered by several manufacturers, not one is offered with iron sights.....
     
  9. hq357

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    The op wants a bolt action that shoots 223 with iron sights
     
  10. SurfGuitar

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    Case Closed....purchased a new Gunsight Scout Rifle this morning....

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    The only real down side to going with this rifle is the cost of ammo, .223 is running around $13.00 a box for range quality brass case, .308 is running $25.00 to $26.00 a box for range quality brass case ammo. So I'll have to shoot less, and make every shot count.....;)

    I did score 4 boxes of PMC, and 4 boxes of Federal, hopefully tomorrow I'll get out to the range and dial in the iron sights. I have 2 different scopes on the bench, but right now I have no desire to scope this rifle, I only shoot at 100 yards, and prefer irons anyway......

    Time to kill some bowling pins.....:D
     
  11. TruggieTex

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    Congrats! Nice rifle, I have heard good things about them.
    I put a 2.8 Leupold fixed, LER scope on my scout and love the ease of acquisition and improvements over iron.
     
  12. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    The other Mossberg MVP Patrol with rails for scope and iron sights mounted to the barrel.

    http://www.mossberg.com/product/rifles-bolt-action-centerfire-mvp-series-mvp-patrol/27755

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  13. JTJ

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  14. SurfGuitar

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    I actually looked at one of the Mossberg MVP's, the iron sights left a lot to be desired, and I wasn't too impressed with the fit, finish, and over all quality of the one I held. The Ruger just feels like a quality rifle, it's build solid, the bolt action is smooth and effortless, and the trigger is amazing. After weighing all the options, I figured the higher cost of ammo was well worth going with the Ruger.
    Beside this will be my main ITSHTF defensive rifle, and .308 Win / 7.62X51mm NATO will reach out and make a difference better than .223 Rem / 5.56mm....
     
  15. KimberFan

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    I bought one of these last year in a Left bolt. I really like it! Enjoy your new boomer!
     
  16. SurfGuitar

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    Range Report.....

    I braved the scorching heat and 95% humidity this afternoon, and took my new Scout rifle out for it's trial run. Put 5 random shots down the tube to warm it up and season the barrel before dialing in the iron sights.
    Got one of the RSO's to spot a couple shots at a bowling pin to determine where my shots were hitting, made a windage adjustment, then fine tuned them on "Shoot & See" targets at 100 yards. Once I got my sights set, I shot a 10 round group on the top and a 7 round group on the bottom targets....
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    Ended up putting 40 rounds down range today, 20 rounds of 147Gr. PMC, and 20 rounds of 150Gr. Federal. The Federal had a tad more recoil then the PMC, but both shot P.O.A. / P.O.I. Recoil was there, but quite manageable, the trigger is a little heavy, but smooth as silk, breaks like glass, and no over travel.
    The stock metal mag can be a bugger to insert, and a chore to load beyond 5 rounds, however I have two 10 round poly mags on order, so we'll see how they do. Over all I'm quite pleased with this rifle, it's solid, accurate, easy to clean, and a joy to shoot.....
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  17. Bigcountry02

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    It my area, the majority is allocated and when MVP Patrol rolls in, it is gone the same or next day.

    This is the reason, I picked up the MVP Varmint version 5.56/.223 at the new military exchange.
     
  18. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    She is a beauty! If I see the scout at the base exchange, will take a look. Another thing, being on base - no tax! :D
     
  19. VoxRomantic

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    Great choice!!!!

    Here is my Lefty setting on the table after ruining the day of huge snapping turtles.
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    In my itty bitty pond:D:D

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  20. John_Deer

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    Your scout should handle steel case ammo just fine. I shoot Brown Bear ammo in my BAR it never malfunctions and is great for bouncing golf balls as far as I can see them with iron sights. I usually find it for my mosin and BAR for around 70 cents a round including shipping. I usually order 120 rounds of soft point ammo at a time. The price gets cheaper if you order more ammo at the time. FMJ ammo might be cheaper I have never looked that closely at the prices of FMJ ammo.

    The 7.62x 54r 203 gr SP does about the same amount of damage to a deer as a shotgun slug.

    I prefer brown bear because the lacquer seals the ammo. Silver bear is zinc coated. I have dumped Brown Bear in the water by accident and it still went bang.
     
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