[gunsmokeer]

Hey there y'all. I'm starting this thread in the .22 rifle section to talk about iron sight upgrades for the Ruger 10/22 rifle. I have one such rifle with a scope, and just about everybody puts scopes on these guns, but I have a second Ruger that I'd like to set up with peep sights to use for .22 rifle matches at any distance from 50 feet to 50 yards, and target practice on bigger targets out to 100 yards.

I'm familiar with the Zephyr and Tech-Sight systems. I am about to order a set of Tech-Sights, but I think they will be a bit too big for the kind of precise shooting I'd like. I'm looking for the .22 equivalent of "National Match" sights, not standard military or field-grade hunting sights.

There's a company, Archer Airguns, that sells a nice match-grade rear sight assembley that looks like it will clamp onto a 3/8" dovetail scope rail or groove. I wonder what kind of front sight would be compatible with that rear? Of course the factory front sight would be too short, since it has bead sitting only about 16mm above the center of the bore, while this airgun rear sight will have the aperture (sighting hole) about 33 mm above the bore.

Any ideas? Comments? Who else is interested in setting up a Ruger 10/22 with some target style peeps?

 

[marysdad]

My 10/22 has a Williams aperature sight that attaches via the two rearmost scope mount screws. I believe that it has a taller front sight blade to accomodate the Williams sight. It was set up that way when I got it in 1974. Works great.

 

[gunsmokeer]

Nice

Yeah, that looks like a pretty nice set of sights. Thanks for posting the good close up photos.

The current version of the Williams 10/22 peep sight features a really big rear aperture, almost a "ghost ring" system, and the front sight has a fiber-optic bead that appears to glow. Good for plinking and hunting running rabbits.

Does anybody here have some other peep sights on their 10/22s? Would anybody be interested in buying a set if you could order it all from one company-- front sight, rear sight, all ready to stick on your Ruger?

 

[tpelle]

I have been searching for a workable aperture sight system for a 10/22 for quite a while. I initially tried a Zephyr sight (made by Eagle, who I gather is in the process of going belly-up), and was totally unhappy with it. The "working parts" were plastic, and the adjustment mechanism was terrible. I took it off and threw it into the garbage where it belonged.

Next I tried a Williams WGRS receiver sight like the one posted above. It's pretty decent as far as the rear sight goes, although the adjustments, though secure, are pretty crummy. You have to loosen a tiny screw for either windage or elevation, slide the sight the appropriate direction, then re-tighten the screw. My biggest problem, however, is the front sight. It's a kind of gold bead jobbie on a sort of tapered blade. I shoot targets, I don't hunt, and would prefer a simple "square" blade with a flat top to promote a more precise 6:00 hold. The round bead is difficult to see under a round bullseye, although if you adjusted for a center hold it might not be too bad.

I just ordered a set of Tech Sights. I bought the TSR-100 style, not the TSR-200. I understand that the TSR-200 positions the rear aperture too high, and the front sight does not have sufficient vertical adjustment to compensate. I also chose to NOT use the A1 style front sight post, and will install an A2 sight post instead. The difference is that the A1 is a cylindrical post on a 5-click base, while the A2 is a square post on a 4-click base. The problem with a cylindrical sight post is that light coming from varying directions on the cylindrical shape can cause difficulty in distinguishing the post the same way, which causes variance in windage. The square sight post always is, well, "square" to the rear sight (which is why it has to have 4-clicks instead of 5).

I am out of town on business today, but I think my Tech Sights have been delivered and are waiting at home. I'll know how they work out this weekend.

BTW, I'm setting my 10/22 up as a stand-in training rifle for my M1 Garands, intending to shoot it at 50 yards.

 

[gunsmokeer]

Pics

Okay, I received the Industry brand rear aperture sight from Archer Airguns. It's very tall, and I could not find a front sight to fit the standard-weight Ruger barrel that would stick up tall enough to be sighted-in at normal distances (20-100 yards). I finally put a Tech-Sight front sight unit on the rifle, and I screwed the front sight post way up high. So high that the detent locking collar is not useable, but the threads engage enough to keep it steady. I may use some lock-tite or crazy glue to hold it in place.

The rear sight is fully click-adjustable for elevation and windage, so I won't need to use the front sight for elevation, as I would with a Tech-Sight rear peep.

If I had a .920 heavy barreled Ruger, I'd use the Tech-Sight dovetail adapter unit (fits over 10/22 muzzle end). Then I could deal with the front sight this way with a Tech-Sight front sight tower and AR-15 style post. The front sight post could be screwed down the way it's supposed to be. Or I could use a Lyman globe-style front sight that stands .85 or .87 inches tall. That would fit into the Tech-Sight dovetail adapter unit, and it would be the right height for the Industry brand aperture sight.

Here are some pics. The stock on my 10/22 is an Advanced Technologies "fiberforce" dragunov style stock.

 

[Tach7]

Continue Thread?

Gentlemen, has this thread been dropped or simply moved?

TPelle: How did those sights work out?

I am seriously considering the Appleseed training, but also recently "fell in love" with peep sights at a BSA range when trying them for the first time.

That said I'm looking for the best solution out there for me and came across this thread; but it seemed to end abruptly...

 

[Joe M]

Ruger 10/22 w/ TSR200 Aperature from Tech Sights and Advanced Technology RUG3000 Fiberforce Stock. I ran the TSR200 Aperature sights with the standard 10/22 wood stock and have no complaints. Either IMHO would make a good Appleseed Rifle.

 

[Tach7]

That's very cool! Thanks Joe!

Let me ask you; I found this post while searching:

G a r p Ruger 10/22 Peep Sight Roundup

I think I'm going to go with the TSR200, but what do guys think of this Williams Rear and Lyman Front combo he ends with?

 

[Joe M]

I feel a Williams Rear and Lyman Front combo would be a good setup.

However, I like the TSR200 setup because I can aquire my target quickly and still stay within acceptable accuracy
results from shot to shot that will (and does) get better the more a person practices with the TSR200 Aperture.

Aquiring your target quickly is where the TSR200 IMHO pays off if time is an issue in say a shooting event.

 

[cpttango30]

Please look at the date of the last post. this thread was long dead and forgotten.

 

[Joe M]

Tach7 made an inquiry on 12/28/2009. Are we to ignore the inquiry since the last post before Tach7's was on 3/16/2008?

 

[ROGER4314]

I bought a Tech Sight and put it on a beautiful 10/22-22 rifle. Frankly, I didn't like them at all and thought they ruined the slick lines of the rifle. I removed them and sold the set.

The Tech Sights found favor with the Appleseed shooters but for the life of me, I can't see how they belong on that rifle! It looks like someone hit them and they swelled up! I also had a heck of a time adjusting the rear elevation.

I replaced the Tech Sights with the same Williams sights as posted earlier. They are very simple, look great and work fine. Cost is about $39 at Midway.

Flash

 

[Glockhead]

Willians peep on 10-22

The one issue I have with the Williams peep on the 10-22 is it works loose and falls off. There is only the small set screw holding it to the base. I have installed a "soft stop" in hope that reducing the peak g-forces from the bolt cycling will reduce the tendency of the screws to work loose.