Round stuck AR 15

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing Forum' started by gunnut78, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. gunnut78

    gunnut78 New Member

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    I got a round jammed in my AR. Any solutions on how to remove it safely? It's wedged in there pretty good.
     
  2. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    Live round or spent round and is it stuck in the chamber? Pics please
     

  3. mountainman13

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    Wedged where? Assuming its in the chamber. A wood dowel and make sure you stay clear of the muzzle.
     
  4. gunnut78

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    Yes, it's seated and stuck in the chamber. Not sure if the round is live or not. The primer has been struck. A little hesitant to look down the barrel with a flashlight. I will post pics tonight if I can.
     
  5. jjfuller1

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    DONT LOOK DOWN THE BARREL EVER!!!.. try the dowel idea and wear gloves, glasses.
     
  6. purehavoc

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    If the bolt is not stuck I suggest point the barrel in a safe direction and reclose the bolt hit the FA a couple times with your hand and try to extract it with the charging lever again . If that fails pull the bolt and charging handle and get a dowel and try to knock it out from the top. If that doesnt work I suggest taking to to your smith and let him deal with the problem
     
  7. JonM

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    If you havent ripped the rim off thecase youcan try the mortar technique. Go outside, safety on, make sure your in a area where you wont get in trouble for discharging a firearm, make sure bolt is fully forward, hold the charging handle like your trying to charge the gun, while pulling the handle rap the butt of the rifle on the ground. It should dislodge the stuck case.

    If the bolt skips off the case rim its wood dowel time with the bcg removed.
     
  8. vagunsmith

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    Pour a small bottle of Hoppes no9 down the end of barrel and stand upright in a corner overnight. That should loosen it
     
  9. Cujocop

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    Separate the upper and lower, then I agree with several other posts, pour a solvent does the barrel and let it sit, it usually will loosen the round and should kill the powder.
    Then you can safely tap it out with a cleaning rod etc..

    There is also a tool sold specifically for this that I purchased years ago from Brownell's but it is pricy.

    Good luck.
     
  10. JonM

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    pouring solvent in the bore is not going to penetrate the case to bullet seal and get into the powder charge. all its going to do is make a mess. its not the rusty bolt or nut type stuck.

    my question is: is the case a steel casing??

    if so, is your chamber chrome lined??

    if not then do not shoot anymore steel cased through that barrel once you get it unstuck
     
  11. purehavoc

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    Good call, I figured I would try some Steel cased Tula in my savage bolt gun and guess what . Stuck !!!!! I had to tap the bolt back with a rubber mallet and it did hold tight enough to pop out the spent case . I wont be doing that again any time soon :D
     
  12. JonM

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    you need to remove the lacquer from the chamber. to do that use a chamber mop or very large shotgun type patch soaked in denatured alcohol it will disolve the lacquer instantly on contact. if you dont you can experience the same situation with brass if any was transferred to the chamber.

    the reason its ok to use on chrome is lacquer simply will not stick to chrome. what it does is the heat melts the lacquer on the steel case and sticks to the chamber walls. lacquer has a very strong affinity to uncoated steel. thats why you see some folks using steel ammo just fine in a AR15 and others nothing but problems.
     
  13. purehavoc

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    Jon, that was my very first round of tula ever run thru that rifle. Always used brass and it had just been cleaned. Chambers just to tight to run steel after it swells up
     
  14. JonM

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    steel is actually looser than brass in that it doesnt expand and seal the chamber like brass. steel has issues with gass blowby going back around the case and into the bolt face. its not an issue in ak47 and actually increases reliability a massive ammount over brass due to the almost non-existant expansion of the steel cases.
     
  15. purehavoc

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    So ya got any ideas what my problem is? My buddies savage does the same thing
     
  16. JonM

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    its the steel lacquered cases. dont use steel. clean your chambers with denatured alcohol to remove all remnants of any lacquer that may have stuck to the chamber walls. removing that is a MUST do since it will cause even brass to stick once you get any lacquer in the chamber. cleaning is super easy. you can do it with patches or q-tips takes like 30 seconds of wiping. savage uses a 223 chamber and its pretty tight to begin with add residue from steel cases and your in trouble
     
  17. purehavoc

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    The tula we are using is not laquer coated.
     
  18. gunnut78

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    Thank you everyone for the info. After work I'm gonna take apart my AR and see what I can do. It is a steel cartage I got stuck. I've our about 300 rounds of steel through this particular AR and never had an issue before. I have heard that AR's can be finicky with steel rounds.
     
  19. purehavoc

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    Are you using the laquer coated stuff like brown bear ?
     
  20. gunnut78

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    Yes, I have used that.