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Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by Ctaylor101, Jan 17, 2012.
What kond of rifle is best for all around hunting use?
All around? The .30-06 is an accurate cartridge in the right rifle and will take any game in North America. And its not considered real overkill for any except the smallest game animals.
A .308 or .30-06 can take every game in NA, but are kind of harsh on squirrels and such. Recently we had a thread just like this, and many in the past. Do a quick search and you'll find a wide variety of answers on recent threads about this subject. (Why don't you introduce yourself in the intro. section.)
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That depends on what you're hunting. A .22 will probably get you more food than a .30-06 unless the only critter around you is really big. If you're looking at larger game in North America, like others said, a .308 or .30-06 is good.
A 12ga shotgun is probably the most versatile hunting gun out there, though.
Wont a shotgun just destroy the kill though? As I heard that yiu have to take all thr pellets out and that is a real pain...
In a survival situation, you may not want to make a lot of noise with a high powered rifle. Some bears have learned to go to the gun shot and steal game. You can be sure that other predators will do the same. With careful hunting, a 22lr with standard velocity rounds will be the quietest without a suppressor. For a heavier choice look at a rifle or handgun in .357 mag but using 38spl with heavy bullets. The old 38spl 200 grn loads were pretty effective. You could still load up if necessary. You could use a 6" barreled revolver or single shot pistol like a Thompson Contender. A 10" scoped TC in .357 using sub sonic rounds would be a good set up and not get in the way of your defensive rifle. A 6" barrel with a suppressor would be even better. You could have a 2nd barrel in 22lr. I have a single shot rifle in .357. I have given some thought to cutting the barrel to 16.5" and having it threaded for a suppressor. With heavy bullets at subsonic speed, it would be a good and quiet game getter.
Like I said, it depends on what you're hunting. You can use slugs to get deer and shot to get fowl. No, it isn't particularly difficult to clean birds taken with shot.
A shotgun is terrible for squirrels and other small game. But for them, you'd want a .22 anyway.
So, what are you planning on hunting? Knowing that would give us a better idea how to help you.
I am looking at deer and some birds also not much else...
I'd suggest a good pump shotgun with interchangeable barrels. Slug for deer, shot for bird.
If it needs to be able to take deer AND fowl, doesn't that necessitate a shotgun using different loads? And being able to stalk close enough for slugs?
Savage made a nice shotgun over a rifle barrel. The rifle barrel was available in several calibers including 22lr. The shotgun was 410, 20 gauge or 12 gauge. A 20 gauge over a 22lr would be a nice combo. I believe it was the model 24 series.
There are a lot of things to consider. Are you moving with the setup? If so, focusing on not being detected by sound, being able to carry a pile of rounds, and the ability to hunt almost anything, makes the .22lr a viable option. For big game, and the ability to shoot larger birds on the wing, a shotgun is the answer. The shotgun is a great choice for changing the minds of predators. The top rifle rounds, based on popularity and availability, .308 and .30-06, are the reach out and touch something pick. Either can take nearly any game on the planet, and from a respectable distance. The weight of rounds for the bigger calibers is significant in quantity. The shotgun stuff is perhaps worse. So the SHTF rifle (or shotty) comes down to what you are looking to accomplish.
Have you taken the Hunter Safety Course for your state? If not you need to. Here in California they cover that sort of stuff.
If it's for fowl and deer, and a one-gun philosophy - that seems to point ot either a plain pump-12ga shotgun, or as has been mentioned, an over-under with 2 calibres.
Remington makes an over-under in several variations. .223/.22lr, .308/12ga, .22lr/.410 etc.
I guess that would suit you well enough. Those combos could be effective at small and medium, or fowl and medium game. I've heard that it takes some practice to use those though, as the aiming is different for each barrel and that scopes don't work too well on them for the same reason - different ammo, and barrels are in different locations (over/under)...
That's just what I've heard though, I havn't used them myself.