Rifle suggestions?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by BeyondTheBox, Nov 18, 2011.

  1. BeyondTheBox

    BeyondTheBox New Member

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    Recently fell in love with my grandpas old Winchester 3030 model 94 and am looking to pick up something similar for myself. I don't neccesarily care if it's the same caliber/gun, but what I loved about it is what I'm looking for, and that's simple... Lever action.

    What I'm most interested in is a better understanding of the differences between alike rifles.

    - 308 (seems most popular, but least likely to have lever action)
    - 3030 (makers I've found being Winchester, Marlin, and Mossberg)
    - 243 (lower cal but just as much bang with more range)

    Does this sum it up? Any others you guys can think of and recommend. The more the explanation the better, as I want to know not just what to look for, but also why.

    Thanks all. This place really is a treasure for firearm info.
     
  2. Werminator

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    If it were me I lean toward the .243 chambering or the .270... I have had seen 30-30 shots that seemed to leave a lot to be desired... I am not saying one is better than another or that the 30-30 is inadequate but my experiences with this caliber have left me cold to it... I took my first deer this year (hunting since 98, shooting well only a few months...)... It was an 8 point buck that weighed in around 165 pounds field dressed... The 80 grain soft point bullet from my Winchester .243 dropped in where it stood... I was concerned about the animal suffering but it was almost over before it began! I too am somewhat interested in a lever action rifle but I found a .44mag I think I like...
     

  3. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Depends on what you want to do with the rifle. Deer hunt at 150 yards? Target shoot at 500?

    The Winchester 94 in 30-30 is the most popular deer rifle in the US. I would prefer a marlin 336 in 30-30 (side eject, and, IMHO, better built) Henry also makes a nice lever action.

    .243 is a necked down .308. Less recoil, great accuracy, lot of bolt action and semi-autos out there. .308, more power, greater range.

    Tastes great, less filling. You pays your money, and takes your pick.
     
  4. tuck2

    tuck2 New Member

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    The Savage Mdl 99 is a handy lever action rifle. I have purchased used ones chambered for the 300 Savage and 308 Winchester rounds. I now am looking for 243 Win and 284 Win chambered 99 rifles.
     
  5. therewolf

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    As in lever action with iron sights, or scoped?

    My Marlin .44 is punchier, for close range(max~~150 yards). But with

    the side ejection I mounted a 1X(no magnification) holographic sight, which is quick on target.

    If you go with a higher powered round, you'll probably want

    a scope with magnification to enhance your calibers ability to reach out, which limits you to

    Marlins, and few others.

    IF you're shooting close-150 yards or less, you might want to consider the

    benefits of a magnum pistol round, (.357 or .44 ) and perhaps iron or a holographic

    sight. After ~ 175 yards you're wanting a rifle round, anyway.

    .308 levers are, IIRC "308 Winchester", a similar but not exact .308(762x51) round.

    Costlier, harder to find special ammo, rather than the more convenient .308 standard.

    IMO, any rifle round, such as 30-30, . 243, 30-06,etc. deserves to be scoped to

    get the range made possible by the much more powerful caliber.
     
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  6. HOSSFLY

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    Since you already have access to a 30-30 I'd go for a Marlin in 44mag, 45LC, 444 or even 357 mag :cool:
    Exspect to pay more for the Marlin but trust me, its worth it - The Winchesters really dont like the pistol calibers :(
     
  7. therewolf

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    Yeah, what he said, plus the Black Walnut stocks on the

    Marlins are second to none.

    It's the reason I bought my Marlin in the first place.

    I'd already decided on a caliber, then I saw the wood grain in

    the stock.
     
  8. Firearms4ever

    Firearms4ever New Member

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    Like Hossfly said, you might want to take a look at a Marlin chambered in .44 Magnum, .357 Magnum, .45 Long Colt, 30-30, or even a Marlin in 45-70 Government. If you want to go with a Winchester in a pistol caliber then I recommend taking a look at Uberti's replicas of the Winchester 1873 and the Winchester 1892 in all the previous pistol cartridges mentioned and also to add the 44-40 WCF.
     
  9. tomingreeneco

    tomingreeneco New Member

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    I would also suggest looking into one chambered for one of the pistol rounds (.44 mag - .357 mag) and if you do not have a pistol of the same caliber look into that next. I personally would never put a scope on a lever gun. Just does not look "right" in my opinion. Get a bolt action if you want a scope. Most deer shot in my neck of the woods is under 50 yards, so a scope is not necessary. The pistol rounds are less expensive to practice with (new or re-load) so if you shoot a lot keep that in mind. I have a .357 in both and shoot about 300-400 rounds a week, so it adds up.
     
  10. therewolf

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    I think if you'd try a holographic reflex sight on a .44 or .357 lever,

    you'd change your mind real quick. It turned my Marlin .44 from

    "middle of the pack" accuracy to the most accurate carbine

    I've got. They're easy to zero, fast on target, and a quantum leap

    in accuracy over iron sights.
     
  11. tomingreeneco

    tomingreeneco New Member

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    I was just talking about the "look". I do cowboy action shooting and the guns just do not look "right" with fancy sites and other modifications. No doubt most people can get better accuracy with a better site. Guess I'm stuck in the late 1800's when in comes to guns. I shoot for fun and for me the old iron sights are more "fun".
     
  12. bigsteve89

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    my vote is for a marlin in 45-70. my friend has one and i fell for it after i took one shot with it at the range. if it werent for the fact that i already have my 870 for a brush gun i would have gone out and bought one that day. the only thing i would change on it is that i want to get a bigger lever for it so i can use it with my gloves on.
     
  13. therewolf

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    I enjoy iron sights more than most. Nothing bothers me more

    than seeing some guy at the range-rifle in the lead sled, clamped

    and sand bagged down, pulling the trigger with a mechanism.

    Can you imagine this guy on a hunt?

    "Oh YOO-HOO! Can you just not move for five minutes?

    I've got to go back to my car, get a stand,vise and sand-bags,

    and then I am so going to mount your rack on a wall in

    my den! Don't go anywhere, now..."

    What? did they not believe the manufacturer's claims to accuracy?


    I even removed the scope mount from my Marlin. Yeah it "looks"

    cool, and aims passably, but not well. At one point

    or another, you'll get tired of the "look" and "fun" of inaccuracy,

    at which point you may want to try a holographic sight.

    I can live with the look, better than I can deal with iffy

    targeting.
     
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  14. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    There are peep sights available. Otherwise known as receiver sights. Williams has several different styles.
     
  15. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    Don`t listen to all the Hype, if you want a lever action get you one, if you can find a Savage 99 get it in .308 if not & you manage to find a Win. 94 in .30-30 get it . You find that you can`t find ither of those get a Henry in .30-30 there ain`t no pistol cal. rd. out there that can do what a .30-30 can.
     
  16. therewolf

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    And there ain't many pistols chambered in 30/30, either. The few which

    are have insane recoil and muzzle flip.

    Nobody here's trying to compare pistol and rifle ballistics.
     
  17. Ruby476

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    Lots of talk about Marlin & Henry...what about a Browning BLR? I've been admiring the BLR in .308 - I too am a fan of iron sights on a lever gun.
     
  18. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    I did not point a finger at anyone, that was just a (General) Don`t listen to all the Hype, if you go with the Henry don`t get it in pistol cal. go with .30-30 Win.