Review Farrar Ballistics 38 SPC reman

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by bluez, Jul 28, 2014.

  1. bluez

    bluez Well-Known Member

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    Bought 1000 rds ammo to support a nice handgunning weekend and was really looking forward to shooting it.

    Came in 10 packs of 100 rds each inside a box.

    But sadly Locked up my cylinder almost every time.
    Tried it again on another revolver this weekend while opening a different bag hoping for a better result, this was when shooting with a friend at his house, this locked up this other revolver as well. ...
    cylinder would not turn once again after shot 1.

    - That Saturday evening I then hand selected out the most questionable looking rounds (pressure lines in brass, dents in brass) .
    This removed about 20% of rounds of the next 2 bags. Again next morning I was still unable to shoot a single 6 shot drum... revolver locked up halfway thru the trigger pull.
    an expanded case was clearly obstructing the turn of the cylinder.

    Likely IMO cause , using too many times reloaded brass.

    Company owner says its "the guns fault" says GP100s are "unreliable " and the dents i spotted in some rounds are FEDEx fault ..
    This all that despite the fact that my GP has shot 100 s of trouble free rounds the previous weekend and then locking up with this ammo and his ammo only.

    My buddies ancient 38 SPC Ammo functioned perfect afterwards as did my newer Fiocchi 125gr.
    I was unable to complete even a single drill with this ammo.

    This Ammo is badly faulty.. I have never experienced something like this before and to think I almost cached it.:eek:.
    Verdict.. not even nearly good enough to be training Ammo.

    Sad the guy would not take it back, he responded to a previous request for tracking number quickly and positively + well after business hours which impressed me so I really wanted to like this ammo.

    But his responded to my email tell him how the ammo was broke he responded negatively.
    But it is simply absolutely unusable Ammo, even by the relatively low standards I have for training.

    Since the company is not taking it back I will give the remaining 960+ rounds to a buddy to pull bullets and powder for reloading.
     
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  2. jebsca

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    Would be interesting to check out the rounds looking at the OAL, case length, case diameter, the bullet weight and diameter, and how consistent the powder drops were. If I read this right, you did get to shoot some. Did they hit a little hard like he over charged them? Now that I think about it, the first thing I would check is the OAL of a wheel of ammo before loading, and then shoot until it locks up, and pull the rounds and check the OAL again. I bet he didn't give them enough crimp, and the recoil is pulling the bullets out until they lock up the action. If that's the case, your reloading buddy could fix that very quick and save 900 some rounds.


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  3. bluez

    bluez Well-Known Member

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    Good thinking!

    I know a few guys locally that relaod but have not yet gotten a firm engagement for assistance.

    Including shipping the ammo cost me a total of $310 and I a bit broke right now so saving the ammo would be much preferred.
     
  4. hotrod14

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    Farrar Ballaistics

    I recently purchased 1000 rounds of 38 special and only recvd 943 rounds. I have sent 3 e-mails requesting their plan to resolve. No response as yet. Next step will be to file a dispute with the credit card company. This was my first time ordering from them. Unless the come up with a satisfactory resolution it will be the first and last time.
    I have not tried the ammo at the range yet. Will be using a Ruger LCR.

    Update: Received an e-mail this morning apologizing for the error. They will send me a check for the difference. Will post when it is received.
     
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  5. hotrod14

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    Update: rcvd check yesterday as promised. Still have not taken to the range but will update once we get the chance. Bought the ammo for the wife and she does not get to the range as often as I do.
    Based on customer service and willingness to correct issue I would order from them again.
     
  6. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    With commercial reloads:

    CAVEAT EMPTOR:(
     
  7. bluez

    bluez Well-Known Member

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    hotrod?
    So how did it go? :)
     
  8. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Find someone with a taper crimp die and run a few rounds through it. If those work your problem is solved but it is still poor QC and bad business practice. If it doesn't work go the credit card complaint route. I would not do business with them again. I have had good luck with the link below. they have both new and reman. I have been using some of their new 9mm and have had no problems. Free shipping on the first order and they will buy back the brass.
    http://www.freedommunitions.com/default.asp#&panel1-2
     
  9. bluez

    bluez Well-Known Member

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    JTJ:

    I should have made my update more complete. :)

    Gave it to a buddy who realoads.
    He found the primers where too far out and locking up the drum.

    2 primers were missing altogether and 2 where installed sideways .

    The majority of rounds were good but there were enough problem rounds that using the ammo required a thorough by-hand inspection by him which took out about 10% of rounds.

    Afterwards I could use the remaining ammo.
     
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  10. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    That is unacceptable.

    During my 15 years of teaching a women's handgun classes, I issued many thousands of remanufactured rounds. Each student fired 500 rounds per class, and we trained 150-200 per year.

    I could count the number of "problem" rounds on one hand and have a finger or two left over.
     
  11. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    That would definitely do it. I had a live primer back out from the recoil of the preceding round on a factory load and lock up the cylinder. It took the range master and I about 20 minutes to get it open. It was a 44 mag though and had a loose primer pocket. Just a bad round. What you got was very sloppy work and PPQC.
     
  12. mike1-505PIR

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    Second freedom munitions. I used some of their ammo in a 3 gun match and it all shot very well.



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  13. hotrod14

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    Time for the update again: Took to the range and have run around 300 rounds through the wife's Ruger LCR. NO issues with the firing of the ammo so yes I would order through the vendor again.
     
  14. bluez

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    Update:
    Finally gave the last of the batch away to another reloader who is retired and who has the time to take them apart for components