Revelation model 330b 410 Sears shotgun

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  1. rudy

    rudy New Member

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    My brother and I inherited a couple of guns from our grandfathers. I got a hi standard sentinel 9 shot revolver and my brother got the revelation 330b 410 from Sears. The barrel does not say what choke it is. Did they come in just 1 choke or does the b mean what choke it is? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance


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  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    if it doesn't have a screw-in choke system, then the choke constriction is built into the barrel when it was made.
     

  3. rudy

    rudy New Member

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    No it does not have a screw in choke. That's why I'm trying to figure out what choke the barrel has. Normally it says what it is but this one does not. I haven't figured out how to up load pics to show what it says on the barrel.


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  4. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    yes they usually were marked on the barrel. all my shotguns that don't have screw-in chokes are marked on the barrel what the choke is.
     
  5. rudy

    rudy New Member

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    I'll try to figure out how to load pics in the morning, but I've looked all over and can't find anything. It just tells me it has a 3" chamber. I do know it it was made by Mossberg for sears.


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  6. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    pictures might help. hopefully someone else knows more than i do.
     
  7. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Rudy- your .410 is a New Haven (second brand name of Mossberg) Model 183-T.

    The Mossbergs had 3 different choke systems. 2 are external chokes that are changeable. The 3rd, which I think you have- is a fixed choke. No, B does not designate the choke- designates the model. Most .410s were made with a full choke. A gunsmith with a choke gauge can tell you in about 30 seconds.

    To post a picture here- have pic on your computer. When you are composing a post, look above where you are typing. See the white smiley face? Look to right- see paper clip icon? Click on that, then browse, pictures, find the picture you want, click it once to highlight it, click OPEN, click UPLOAD, wait a couple of seconds, then CLOSE THIS PAGE. Now back to page you are composing, click paper clip again, you get dropdown with file name. click that, should insert the pic.

    Sounds complicated, takes 10 seconds once you learn how.

    Yours look like this?

    mossberg 183-t.jpg
     
  8. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    C3, i have the 385T 20 ga. Mossberg and some of those came with the C-Lect choke systems. now mine is just the Full Choked barrel. can this be adapted to use the C-Lect chokes? or is the barrel different for them?
     
  9. Airborne1

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    Axxe, I don't own a shotgun, but I am sure if it came with a full choke you will not be able to go to a larger choke without cutting off the barrel.
     
  10. hiwall

    hiwall Well-Known Member

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    C3 is right(of course) about a 99.8% chance your shotgun is full choke. About the only way it is not full is if the barrel was cut down or a gunsmith opened the choke up. While the first is possible the second is very unlikely.
     
  11. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    thanks guys. that is what i was thinking too. just wanted some confirmation. i believe it will just have to stay the way it is. the shotgun is in just too decent of shape to be cutting off the barrel.
     
  12. kfox75

    kfox75 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Axxe. With the prices and values of the old Mossberg bolt shotguns, keep and eye out for a 185 K (a,b,c,etc.) The last one i picked up cost me $75 OTD, and it was in near perfect condition. For what a smith would charge to cut down the barrel and install the C-lect Choke, you can easily find a buy a preexisting bolt with the k designation.
     
  13. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    that would be my idea as well. i paid about $120 for mine and it was in very decent condition a few marks on the wood stock, but the blueing was in excellent condition.

    thanks Kfox!:D
     
  14. c3shooter

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    If your shotgun has a fixed choke, as the man said- would have to have a smith cut and thread the exterior to get a C-Lect installed. And frankly, altho I like Mossbergs, I am not a huge fan of the C-Lect-choke.

    With the C-Lect, you looked in the box, C-lected which choke you wanted, used a little hook type wrench to screw it on. The chokes are available for $25 each plus shipping from Havlinsales.com.

    The third system was a variable choke (we called it Dial-A-Duck) that you twisted to open or close the choke. REALLY not a fan of that one.
     
  15. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    thanks C3. i will just leave it be. not worth the hassle or cost to modify it for one. i still want one of the Mossbergs with the C-Lect choke system, but i'll just wait until i run across one and buy it.
     
  16. Virginian

    Virginian Active Member

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    The C-Lect choke was the adjustable collar one. I forget what the screw on external choke tubes were called. The C-Lect choke I had, and a couple of inches of barrel, are still out in the marsh.
     
  17. 303tom

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    If it is a Revelation 330B, it was made by Mossberg for Western Auto, which makes it a Mossberg 183T & is it don`t have an adjustable choke then it is Full Choke..........
    https://www.google.com/search?q=mos...6uyAHN54CQBw&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg&biw=1344&bih=710
     
  18. rudy

    rudy New Member

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    I will post pics later. I have a house full of grandkids so I don't have much time to do anything right now. And by the way the gun says sears on the barrel. I would assume then after reading all the posts it is a full choke. I can take it to a GS this week to confirm. And yes the shotgun looks identical to the picture shown. Got to go I here one of the grandkids calling for me now. I'll be back on later today. Thanks everybody for the help.


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  19. 303tom

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    Here is where I was looking, I was guessing having NOT seen the gun..........

    http://www.hoosiergunworks.com/catalog/cross_reference.html
     
  20. kfox75

    kfox75 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You hit the nail on the head Virginian. They were just labeled as interchangeable choke tubes. Here's a link to one of the original ads: http://www.box54.com/hangtag%20183DG&KD.jpg

    My dad used to have the Westernfield version of the 385 k, and I still have a 185-ka with an intact C-Lect Choke. Both of them sucked with shot, but both were tack drivers with slugs. Pretty common trend from what I have heard from other owners of the k series shotguns. My 200k OTOH patterns quite well despite the fact that it has an "inferior" choke system. Sometime's it's just the luck of the draw. Haven't put any slugs through it yet. With 3 hunters and 5 slug guns in the house I haven't seen the need to.
     
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