restrictions in school facility

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by Krisms, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. Krisms

    Krisms New Member

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    for parents with kids in school, do you have your ccw in your vehicle when you drop them off at school? i'm confused if the gun ban in school facility include parking and driving areas. if so, does that make you leave your ccw at home? i'm sorry if this is a lame question but i just want to understand so i can stay within the limits of the law.
     
  2. downsouth

    downsouth New Member

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    Probably depends on the state you are in.
     

  3. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Florida statute 790.115:
    (2)(a) A person shall not possess any firearm, electric weapon or device, destructive device, or other weapon as defined in s. 790.001(13), including a razor blade or box cutter, except as authorized in support of school-sanctioned activities, at a school-sponsored event or on the property of any school, school bus, or school bus stop; however, a person may carry a firearm:
    1. In a case to a firearms program, class or function which has been approved in advance by the principal or chief administrative officer of the school as a program or class to which firearms could be carried;
    2. In a case to a career center having a firearms training range; or
    3. In a vehicle pursuant to s. 790.25(5); except that school districts may adopt written and published policies that waive the exception in this subparagraph for purposes of student and campus parking privileges.
    For the purposes of this section, “school” means any preschool, elementary school, middle school, junior high school, secondary school, career center, or postsecondary school, whether public or nonpublic.
     
  4. GeneralPatton

    GeneralPatton New Member

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    In GA, the law originally made it illegal to have a weapon in the car on school property. It was changed a couple years later to allow you to pick your child up at school as long as the weapon remained in your car and you do not park. So, you can go through the pickup line with it, but you can't park and get out. I know that seems over the top, but the reason they wrote it that way is that they consider a weapon in the car to be "unsecured" and able to be obtained by another person who could have "nefarious" intentions.

    The interesting part is, that the reason it was changed is some over the top rookie cop stopped a speeder in a "school zone" and charged him with possession of a weapon in a "Gun Free School Zone" and took him to jail. The defendant sued the state and won. Then they changed the law.
     
  5. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    key word concealed.. just saying....
    theres a website that has most of the states handgun laws
    http://www.handgunlaw.us/
     
  6. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    My state of WA exempts CCW holders for the purpose of droping off or picking up students.
     
  7. BeyondTheBox

    BeyondTheBox New Member

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    All I'm going to say is concealed is concealed.
     
  8. partdeux

    partdeux Well-Known Member

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    State Law trumps
     
  9. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Krisms- the answer varies from state to state. Dan answered your question (I see you are in Florida). Say thank you, Dan.

    The 790.25(5) mentioned in Dan's post is the Florida Concealed Weapons statutue. http://www.flsenate.gov/laws/statutes/2010/790.25

    Bottom line- if you have a CCW, and you are in your car, picking up/ dropping off, and do not leave the car, Florida appears to accept that.
     
  10. Krisms

    Krisms New Member

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    thanks for all the inputs! i'm in florida and what prompted this question was a breaking news earlier where it was reported that an 18-year old man was arrested with charges of "carrying a concealed weapon, possession of a firearm on school property, possession of a weapon on school property and trespassing with a firearm on school property". he had his gun in his vehicle with him but security later found other suspicious items. not sure if he's a ccl holder but in FL it is legal to have a firearm in a vehicle without a license (under certain conditions). i don't question the apprehension since the man actually did not properly conceal his weapon and was just hiding a loaded .22 under his legs but what got my attention was the kind of violations he was charged with.
     
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  12. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    FL statute 790.06.12 (license for concealed carry):
    (12)(a) A license issued under this section does not authorize any person to openly carry a handgun or carry a concealed weapon or firearm into:
    1. Any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05;

    2. Any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station;

    3. Any detention facility, prison, or jail;

    4. Any courthouse;

    5. Any courtroom, except that nothing in this section would preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his or her courtroom;

    6. Any polling place;

    7. Any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district;

    8. Any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof;

    9. Any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms;

    10. Any elementary or secondary school facility or administration building;

    11. Any career center;
    12. Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose;

    13. Any college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty member of such college or university and the weapon is a stun gun or nonlethal electric weapon or device designed solely for defensive purposes and the weapon does not fire a dart or projectile;
    14. The inside of the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; or

    15. Any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.

    (b) A person licensed under this section shall not be prohibited from carrying or storing a firearm in a vehicle for lawful purposes.

    (c) This section does not modify the terms or conditions of s. 790.251(7).
     
  13. WebleyFosbery38

    WebleyFosbery38 New Member

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    How many more reasons do we need to start home schooling our kids? Schools, Playgrounds and Buses are danger zones for Jr and Missy. The Freak that took that kid off a bus has caused his state to reaffirm the law that says no adults are to allowed within 15' of a Bus door, that should make the first few days of school in Kindergarten interesting! They lock down our kids FOOG but dont protect them from anyone but us!
     
  14. c3shooter

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    DO check with your licensing authority, but an 18 yr old likely did not have a CCW, and likely was not dropping off kids. More likely parked on school grounds.
     
  15. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    The law varies state to state.

    Concealed means concealed.

    The question you have to ask yourself is a potential court battle worth risking your life or your kids lives over.

    Only you can decide.

    Putting up a sign or inking a law saying "no guns" makes a target rich environment and only protects murderers rapists and kidnappers from retribution. Thats why liberals love gun free zones so much. If people werent getting murdered and raped they wouldnt have anything to watch on tv at night
     
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  16. dragunovsks

    dragunovsks New Member

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    Depends on your state, here in indiana, a permit holder can drop off their kids with a gun in the car or on their person provided the weapon doesnt leave the vehicle.
     
  17. phildenton

    phildenton New Member

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    Also you can park your car, as long as gun stays in car out of plain view.
     
  18. AIKIJUTSU

    AIKIJUTSU New Member

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    In my state, South Carolina, a CWP holder can have a gun in his car, in the glove box or console, but without a CWP it is a felony, 5 years penalty. Just 2 days ago a student at Clemson University was arrested for having a handgun in his glove box as a result of being stopped for a traffic violation. He did not have a CWP. Probably not well informed as to how the law was written.