restoring a mosin

Discussion in 'Engraving & Refinishing' started by JonM, Mar 4, 2012.

  1. JonM

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    picked up this hex mosin this weekend and im going to use it as a restoration and try and make it look nicer. so far ive stripped off the shellac coating using denatured alcohol then 100 gritted it to get what littl remains off. still need to use fine grit to smooth it out.

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    by next weekend it should be ready for whatever color. but im stuck at what finish to use.

    anyone got some suggestions?? pics would be ideal. i want it to really stand out at the range.

    here is the stock as it sits now still got some very small nooks to remove shellac and of course final sanding.

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  2. tarheel4747

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    Jon,
    While I am certainly no expert, I did get some good advice on restoring my Mosin. After removing the old finish and sanding, I used red oak minwax stain followed by 8 coats of Tru Oil. I used 0000 steel wool between coats to lightly sand the finish after allowing a couple hours of drying time. This process worked pretty well for me, hope it helps.
     

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    Here is the after picture.
     

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  4. mountainman13

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    Tru-oil works great. I've used it many times. I won't bother on a stain selection too many options out there. Just say try it in a small hidden spot first to make sure you like it. If you want a very plain in the stock finish buffing bees wax into the stock works well.
     

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  5. JonM

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    that looks good but im looking for a shiny redder finish

    i like that red. im thinking of a darker red like a red mahogony.

    the main sealers im considering are tru oil boiled linseed and tung oil. im leaning towards tung oil.
     
  6. mountainman13

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    tung oil works great too as far as linseed goes it may have been widely used back in the day but its really not a great finish it really doesn't seal or protect very well and requires upkeep
     
  7. texaswoodworker

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    Minwax makes a red mahogany stain. They also make a waterbased stain called fruit punch (bright red) and china red (deeper dark red). http://www.minwax.com/wood-products/stains-color-guide/

    As for the glossy look, it looks like the tru oil is pretty glossy.

    You could also use a "CLEAR" shellac (make sure it is clear, regular shellac is a deep amber color). I haven't ever used shellac over stain though, so I don't know how it would turn out. (Be warned, shellac begins to dry in seconds, work fast when using it) I usually apply the first coat, sand it with a high grit sandpaper (320-400), then add a few extra coats. If it doesn't look completely smooht after a coat, just sand it smooth, then add another coat.

    Good luck, don't forget to post pics of your progress. :D I can't wait to see how it turns out.
     
  8. TheOldMan

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    Jon I "normally" use minwax stains on all of my restorations as they seem to have vurtually every color to match the original finishes I've seen on milsurps. Now if I want to go flashy, I use Tru Oil. If I want a nice warm semi flashy finish I use (and prefer most times) BLO... Another option that I like is the hand rubbed paste wax or bees wax finish..

    In the end it's all in what you want the end result to look like. But remember, the original finish was shellac..
     
  9. mountainman13

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    I've heard turtle wax actually works pretty well. Never tried it.
     
  10. JonM

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    went over to menards (wisconsin version of lowes but cheaper) and picked out a stain that is likely to make the most awesome mosin thats ever existed!! was looking for a dark red and found something better (i hope). if it works out the way i think its gonna be totally awesome. more on it later when it gets a coat or two.

    wont be using shellac. the wife has banned me from using it in the house after the last project... i know its original but i want it a little nicer.

    picked up some more sandpaper to finish the sanding and found copper and brass sheets for making handguard caps and sling estuchions(sp??). didnt buy any of the sheets yet as i dont know the thickness i need and havent decided on brass or copper.
     
  11. mountainman13

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    Looking forward to pictures
     
  12. vincent

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    Ditto...I'm happy with my 1940 stock but I have a 10/22 stock that needs some love...
     
  13. tarheel4747

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    Looking forward to seeing the finished product. I plan on restoring a couple more so I am interested in seeing your work.
     
  14. JonM

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    Well the first one isnt going to be your traditional mosin its more of a test bed for technique before i tackle my other three. Im leaving the pusniper for last. Should have it down solid by then.

    Took out the sling estuchions and crossbolt this evening and rough sanded out the last few stubborn spots of shellac. The estuchions are much thicker than i thought and will require a trip to the metal supply shop for brass plate thick enough to recreate them.

    Tommorrow if i feel ok after work enough to be confident doing a decent job it will be final sanding and first coat of stain. At any rate once the first stain is done and dry sanded ill take some pics and decide if i want to go darker.

    Still need to do research on what finish is going to be the nicest
     
  15. mountainman13

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    I'd recommend wet sanding but its not really necessary
     
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  16. TheOldMan

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    Looking forward to your progress Jon...
     
  17. JonM

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    applied the first coat of stain. im going to sand it back down with fine sand paper then add another coat.

    im hoping it turns out a nice warm pink once it gets the tru oil!!

    so far so good. the only pink mosin in the world is hopefully on track!!

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  18. mountainman13

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    Definately an interesting shade from the pic. Multiple coats and a finish will likely change it a bit.
     
  19. JonM

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    its minwax cherry blossom. it may turn red i dunno but i hope it tends towards pink
     
  20. JonM

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    update on the progress. got the brass endcaps back on the handguards but nothing is polished yet. ive also finally finished making the blanks for the sling estuchions. all that remains for those is drill out the screw holes cut the slot for the dog collar and polish. the rear sight and front sight are currently off the rifle for cleaning. it just had a butt load of cosmoline in there.

    i made the estuchions with brass stock a dremel tool with cutoff wheel and bench grinder to shape to fit. so far i think its coming out pretty good

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    even got the range markings color filled with an appropriate color to match the stock.

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    anyway im getting closer to being done.