Rescued Mosin

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by JiroZero713, Apr 15, 2009.

  1. JiroZero713

    JiroZero713 Active Member

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    Got a Mosin Nagant after I saw this poor baby at the Gun Cellar in Alabama

    Someone tried to sportorize it...and most of the stock is missing.

    It's an m44...and the bayonet has been sawn off

    Cost me 40 bucks so I said screw it.

    I'm thinking about finding a polymer stock since the wood is basically crap now....and turning it into a scout rifle replacing the iron sights...or what do you guys suggest?

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    Tula Russian model of 1945

    Even has the communist logo on it as well as a bunch of other symbols

    Some T looking letter then a W looking thing...followed by 6794



    What do you think? Smart buy?

    Also I think someone ducked taped something to the barrel...seems like they were trying to offset the weight to make the recoil lesser....or...hell in some places...it looks like they put flashlights and laser sights on it.


    HAHAHAHHA

    It's dirty.....and hell It might not be worth a damn to shoot...but for 40 bucks I'll take it and clean it up real good....cycles like a dream....and the bore looks good as far as I know maybe not cleaned though...the bolt is really brown on the knob...but I'm thinking I'll buy a new full bolt for this later on in life.
     
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  2. hillbilly68

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    40 bucks is a good deal if she shoots. Give 'er a squeeze with that lightened stock and let us know how that feels! Congrats on the new piece! Id throw a replacement wood stock and keep her original as possible.
     

  3. JiroZero713

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    Eh...well I'm not a big fan of the m44...I just bought this one because she felt good and didn't hurt the wallet. And I know it shoots because the guys checked it...now well...I'm not sure.


    That lightened stock would probably slam my arm off becasue of how it's taken apart.....specially with the bayo off too.

    If the barrel is good then I'll turn it into a hunting rifle.


    Eh...just looked down the barrel....the rifling looks spot on...but I see no shinyness now that I'm at home. Hoping it just needs a good cleaning and that it's not rust from corrosive ammo.
     
  4. ScottG

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    Please JZ, once you've found the bubba, beat him senseless with the old stock. Us C&R guys die a bit every time we see something like that.

    Do it. For the children.......
     
  5. mpd8488

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    At this point you might as well sporterize it. The bayonet's gone and the stock is ruined.

    Besides I don't think that sporterizing such a firearm (one in this shape) is sacralidge, rather it is paying tribute to a design that is over 100 years old by showing that it is still relevant today.

    What's wrong with the bolt that's on there now? It's a pretty rugged design.
     
  6. c3shooter

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    Yeah, Bubba is alive and well. Still finding Enfields that he "worked on". Take a look around over at gunpartscorp.com, they have parts- but it will cost you more than a new rifle to put it back together- but they DO have a fairly nice looking hardwood sporter stock-

    Mosin Nagant Sporter Stock | e-GunParts.com
     
  7. JiroZero713

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    Well I want to turn it into a hunting rifle.


    Wood may be best since you can refinish that...repaint it...etc....but then I also like polymer because it'll give it that Sniper Scout rifle look.

    I want this rifle to be able to kill deer as well as humans if need be.

    And while I like the sporter look...I need something that will fight recoil and be a blessing to shoot.
     
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    Collecting and Shooting the Military Surplus Rifle (2006) - Surplusrifle.com


    I'm going to try to turn it into this.....but probably not the same scope mount...I've seen a few nice rail mounts that replace the back sight...and then also if the scope bites it you can still use the base as a rear sight.


    Imma get a camo monte carlo stock though.

    Would a compensator be a good buy and which one sould I buy?
     
  9. robocop10mm

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    I like the Scout rifle idea. A comp or muzzle brake would help with recoil at the expense of making a loud rifle even louder (with most such devices). To mount a comp will probably require the threading of the muzzle. To thread the muzzle you would have to remove the barrel. To remove the barrel off a gun that old that has likely had many rounds of corrosive ammo fired through it will be a chore.
     
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  11. JiroZero713

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    I've heard good and bad results.

    I might pick that up as well as a Monte Carlon stock just to see how it handles.

    I'm scared to shoot it like this without concrete strapped to my shoulder.
     
  12. PoofNoEyebrows

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    I would be interested to hear how it shoots since its missing the bayonet.
     
  13. SGT-MILLER

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    Don't do anything!!!

    Give it a neat nickname and shoot it just like it is.

    That can be your ugly gun. :)
     
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    I just posted that a few seconds ago hahaha.

    But anyway....I'm trying to decide

    Evil Black Rifle look.

    Or Camo Hunting look....eh camo stocks make it more expensive.

    Maybe someone will hate their stock and sell it...I need to google gun broker stuffs


    Also I got the duck tape crap off....I'm thinking he ducked taped something on there....not sure what though.

    It looks nice....but the stock is good...what's left of it that is.


    And I read that and it says the trigger has a 2 stage trigger...I think someone modified mine because it feels like a one stage trigger...since it only takes a slight pull


    Also one weird thing I noticed when it's cocked and ready...the trigger hangs loose and can be pushed forward...this normal? It matter not to me...the trigger still pulls.


    Also I need to get a curved handle...or an entirely new bolt....any suggestions on that?
     
  16. mpd8488

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    I'm sure others can give you some specific links on buying curved handles or shipping your bolt off to have it modified (there are also DIY kits, but I don't think those are reccomended). Before you have that done you should decide how you are going to sporterize it. If you drill and tap a mount into the side of the receiver you probably will need a curved bolt, but there are other solutions that involving removing the rear sight and spring and replacing it with a mount. Sometimes they can give you shoddy results, but I know there is one guy that makes one that works damn near perfectly. Hopefully somebody can chime in with his info. If you go that route, depending on the optics you choose you could be fine.

    Unless you just want a curved bolt for the ergonomics in which case disregard my post.
     
  17. robocop10mm

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    If you are going the scout route you don't need to re-do the bolt handle. The scope will sit well forward of the bolt.
     
  18. JiroZero713

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    I might just get a brand new bolt all together down the road since this one looks like ****...or at least the handle does....not sure how to replace it yet.

    To get a true scout rifle it needs to be placed in front of the action...but I'm wondering what's the best and most accurate way I can do it....if a side mounted scope or a drilled and tapped mount is better then I'm open to suggestions.


    The reason I'm thinking curved bolt Is...I think it looks neat...but other than that...**** it I might just keep it as is.


    If any of your guys want to help me out..know some quality smiths...and what not then please be my guest and tell me. I'll ship the thing to you myself and let you work on it...or find someone to work on it.
     
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  19. Rex in OTZ

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    Removing the bayonet on them rifles

    I had a Type 53 that dident have the bayonet, it took quite a bit of work to get the sights "POA" with the Bayo is gone nothing is in the ball park!
    the front sight has to be recalibrated for the changes made both windage and elevation.
    my front sight had to be drifted to port about a 1/16th of a inch just to be in the neighborhood, that rifle shot consistantly 9" low at 50yards too which dident make sense at the time. If you get the sights all regulated you will have a sweet shooter just keep the chamber scrubbed clean! scout scope it to use the stripper clip and enjoy!
    when it comes to Milsurp sporters just leave them stocks unless they are unsafe to shoot that way, why waste the money?
     
  20. JiroZero713

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    I didn't think we had any steel wool in the house but I found some. The Bolt I though was rusted pretty bad...but I got it back to shinyness....albeit a bit dark..but it's enjoyable to look at now so...I'll keep the bolt....I thought it was scrubbed.

    Literately this rifle looks like it was thrown in the back of a closet to rot...and someone turned it in 2 days ago to the gun shop to get some tax cash.

    Well I bought it on tax day and I'm going to bring this baby back to life if I can.

    I need to find a local gun smith to help me with it and get his ideas. Anyone know any good ones in Alabama?

    I have no idea how to work on the sights myself I'm a scrub nub.


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    Probably can't tell but now the bolt handle is more shiny...it was a dark brown before

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    The Duck Tape goo is now gone! TY solvent...looked like boogers when I got it off.