Replica Percussion Revolver Markings Wanted

Discussion in 'Blackpowder & Musket' started by bprevolver, Mar 20, 2009.

  1. bprevolver

    bprevolver New Member

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    Want to Buy cap & ball revolvers with the following markings.

    1. American Arms
    2. American Heritage
    3. American Import
    4. Armoury
    5. California Arms
    6. Classic Arms
    7. Federal Import Export (Not F.I.E.- Firearms Import Export)
    8. Freedom Arms
    9. Galesi
    10. S.E.Laszio
    11. I.A.G.
    12. Intercontinental Arms, Inc.
    13. J. L. Galef
    14. Liberty Arms Organization
    15. Markwell
    16. Mars Equipment Co.
    17. Modern Muzzle Loading, Inc.
    18. Muzzle Loaders Inc.
    19. Potomac Arms
    20. Shore
    21. Smokepole Musket
    22. Ultra-High Products
    23. Valor
    24. Valor Imports Corporation
    25. Witloe Precision Inc.
     
  2. Hawg

    Hawg Active Member

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    What, no R.A.G.'s (Rigarmi):D
     

  3. bprevolver

    bprevolver New Member

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    Replica percussion markings

    I need to identify the ones on the list. RAG and Pietta are more common.
     
  4. Hawg

    Hawg Active Member

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    I've only ever seen one RAG and it's mine. Bought it new in 69.
     
  5. rudybolla

    rudybolla New Member

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    If anyone collects these, I have one for sale. It has never been fired and has dried factory grease on it. The XX date stamp indicates a 1964 manufacture. I prefer Navies! :D
     
  6. bprevolver

    bprevolver New Member

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    For sale

    What do you have for sale? What model? How marked? etc.
     
  7. RL357Mag

    RL357Mag New Member

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    What about Uberti? They make some of the nicest Colt repro's available..
     
  8. rudybolla

    rudybolla New Member

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    It is a 1964 mfg. Rigarmi marked RAG on left side of barrel above rammer pivot.
     

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  9. Hawg

    Hawg Active Member

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    He wants hard to find stuff not everyday stuff. Sides Pietta's just as good if not better and cheaper.
     
  10. bprevolver

    bprevolver New Member

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    Early Rigarmi

    rudybolla: Yours is the earliest manufacture date I have run across. The revolvers in our collection are dated from 1969-1973. I am posting a previous post abRIGARMI

    RAG is one of the logos used by Rigarmi, Brescia Italy. They used several different markings depending on who the importer/distributor was. RPRCA has eight revolvers in its collection. Below are the markings found on our revolvers.

    Schneider & Glassick.......RING GALESA-RIGARMI-BRESCIA (Left side of barrel)

    Schneider & Glassick.......RAG (Left side of barrel flat in front of cylinder)

    1860 Army....................RIGARMI (Left side of barrel) RAG (Left side of barrel flat in front of cylinder)

    1851 Navy....................RAG (Left side of barrel flat in front of cylinder)

    Remington Beals Army Model......RIGARMI (Left side of barrel)

    Remington Beals Army Model......RIGARMI (Left side of barrel) RAG (On Butt)

    Remington Beals Army Model......RAG (On Butt)

    1860 Army Brass Frame Cut for Shoulder Stock......HAWES FIREARMS CO - LOS ANGELES -- CALIFORNIA (LtSd Barrel)
    RAG(LtSd Barrel Flat) 44 CALIBER ARMY MODEL

    Other observed revolvers was an 1860 Army marked the same as ours.

    There was an 1860 Army on auction on Gun Broker that had some other interesting markings.......RIRARMI-MADE IN ITALY (Left side of barrel) RAG (Left side of barrel flat)
    1860 ARMY TROOPER (Top of barrel) EMF.LA-CAL (On Butt)

    The EMF and the Hawes are the only two thus far observed Importer/Distributor markings on Rigarmi revolvers. Rigarmi also produced modern firearms as well.
    out the Rigarmi.
     
  11. RL357Mag

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    My 32 yr.old Colt Navy repro with the German Silver trim begs to differ...4 distinct "clicks" when the hammer is cocked - try getting that from a Pietta...
     
  12. Hawg

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    Which is totally historically incorrect for a C&B. Two clicks is correct for a Colt C&B. Yours must be a tad out of time. Four clicks is correct for a SAA.
     
  13. Hawg

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    Mine is a 58 Remington Beals army model. It was made in 69. It had(defarbed now) Rigarmi on the left Barrel flat. RG on the loading lever and RAG on the butt. No importer/distributor markings at all.
     
  14. RL357Mag

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    Be that as it may, it is definately NOT out of time, but being a replica it is machined much better than the "historically correct" version...
     
  15. Hawg

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    That doesn't even make sense. They're all replicas, copies, clones, whatever you want to call them unless they're originals. Newer Pietta's and Uberti's are made on CNC machinery that wasn't around when yours was made=closer tolerances. Tell ya what. Watch close as you ease the hammer back slowly and see what's happening on those four clicks. The first click should be half cock. The second should be full cock and the bolt locking in at the same time.

    I'll bet when you cock it slow your first click is half cock, second is bolt striking cylinder short of the notch, third is bolt locking in and fourth is hammer going to full cock. If so you're out of time just a tad.
     
  16. RL357Mag

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    There's more involved when you cock a revolver than just the movement of the bolt and the hand. All of my BP revolvers including my Ruger Old Army, Spiller & Burr, & 1851 Colt Navy Pocket, have 3-4 clicks and the motion of the bolt is responsible for two of them. The first click is when the bolt retracts from the locked position, also the trigger moves into the half-cock position, this is two clicks (motion of the bolt moving down and motion of the trigger being locked into half cock), the third click is the bolt moving upward into the locked position (this also accompanies the movement of the "hand" to rotate the cylinder into battery), at this point if the hammer is allowed to move forward under spring tension BEFORE coming to full-cock, and then pulling it back into the full cock position there is another click. It's definately NOT out of timing even a small amount. Cylinder lock-up is precise and solid. I've had out-of-time revolvers and mostly they are due to frame stretch on cheap brass framed revolvers, like the Pietta (Western Arms) Sheriff's .44 Mod. I had which now "sleeps with the fish".
     
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2009