Remington Model 7 Problem

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by ChicagoJoe, Aug 18, 2011.

  1. ChicagoJoe

    ChicagoJoe New Member

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    While breaking-in the barrel on my new Rem M7 in 7mm-08 I had a disconcerting problem - after some rounds the bolt would be very difficult to lift to extract the round. There was no pattern to it either. I was shooting three different types of ammo and it happened with each one. After one round the bolt would open normally, and the next round it stuck, then the third round it would open normally again so it was not a matter of buildup in the chamber. I used to own a Rem 700 and never had this problem.

    Has anyone else experienced this? Is this something that will be mitigated after the gun has more rounds through it? Is there a safety issue?

    I have read and heard a lot about Remington's quality declining since they were bought by Cerberus. I would hate to abandon Big Green.
     
  2. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    Joe,

    What I would do is immediately call Remington. If it is not some mechanical issue with the Bolt itself. You could have a serious head space problem! Is there any indication like swelling or marks on the spent brass? Or the primer mashed down. The primer would look like you are firing a round that is very very hot load. (like excessive pressure).

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  3. ChicagoJoe

    ChicagoJoe New Member

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    Sniper, you gave good advice. I called Remington and they are having me send the rifle back to the factory because it might be an headspace problem. Hopefully, they will get the rifle back to me in the promised eight weeks in time for deer season.

    On a more general note, has anyone noticed a general decline in Remington products since Freedom/Cerberus took over? I had a pre-Cerberus Rem 700 that worked flawlessly and I am having problems with a Cerberus Rem 7. I would hate to bolt Remington for Savage, but if they do not make good on this rifle that is exactly what I'll do.
     
  4. Wambli

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    I've bought 3 Remington 700s in the last 2 years and they have all been flawless performers and great shooters. I'm about to buy a Stainless SPS Varmint in .308 for my son. I'm sure this one will work great too. Remington makes a LOT of guns. Just like every manufacturer every once in a while a lemon gets through. My buddy's last Savage won't do better than 2" with anything he has shot through it yet...
     
  5. ChicagoJoe

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    Wambli, I hope you are right. I shall judge Remington by how they treat me during the warranty return odyssey. I had a 1998 vintage Remington ADL in 30-06, which was a great rifle, despite being at the bottom of Remington's 700 line. It never failed to function and would shoot close to an inch at 100 yds with CoreLokt factory ammunition. I traded it in toward a Model 7 only because it was too much rifle for hunting in the wooded hills of western PA where a long shot was under 100 yards.

    We shall see over the next two months. Remington is sending a box and shipping label to return the rifle to the factory, and they say the repair can take up to eight weeks. The service rep claimed she was trying to expedite the order so hopefully they will turn around more quickly than two months so I have time to re-mount the scope and hit the range before opening day of deer season.
     
  6. Wambli

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    Stay on top of them and call them every few weeks for updates. You want to make sure they are making progress on your gun. I've owned several ADLs and they have been great guns. I understand your frustration. Good luck and keep us posted.

    Ps for what it's worth the 7mm-08 is my favorite deer cartridge. My daughter and I both hunt with it and I've been using it with GREAT success for years. The model 7 is the perfect platform for it too.
     
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  7. ChicagoJoe

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    Wambli, I went with 7mm-08 because it appeared to be the ideal deer cartridge, based on articles in Field & Stream, Petersons, etc. Only after buying the rifle did I learn that 7mm-08 ammo is far more expensive than 30-06 or 308.

    I'll keep on Remington to make sure my rifle is moving through the system.
     
  8. Wambli

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    Still cheaper than many of the exotics, more in line with .35 Whelen and some of the other stuff I like to hunt with. The way I look at it, the box of CoreLoks might cost me a few dollars more than .308 but I like the way it works.

    Shop for ammo right before deer season. Remington usually puts out rebates for all the popular calibers and 7mm-08 CoreLoks can be had for a decent price. They are hell on deer at Northeast ranges.
     
  9. ChicagoJoe

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    Today I finally received the box from Remington to ship my model seven back for repairs / replacement. It only took them two weeks to send an empty cardboard box. To their credit, they are picking up the shipping which supposedly is 'not policy'. I'm shipping the rifle tomorrow.
     
  10. c3shooter

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    Joe- FWIW, I returned a Remington 600 to the factory for a warranty repair this year (my box, their shipping) Was pleasantly surprised. They emailed me a repair number, could click and it would tell me what was happening with my rifle day by day. After repair, they cleaned it (including dried lube in the trigger group) and test fired it, shipped back to me.
     
  11. ChicagoJoe

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    C3, how long did it take for them to do the repair and return the rifle?
     
  12. ChicagoJoe

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    C3, right you are. I sent my rifle last week and received an email notification that they have my rifle in the queue with a link to check the repair status. This bodes well.
     
  13. Axxe55

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    joe, i own a marlin XS7 in 7mm-08. love this round! very accurate, doesn't punish your shoulder with the recoil either. just another suggestion, i added a set of 7mm-08 reloading dies to my bench and started reloading for it because the ammo was way more expensive than 308 or 30-06 ammo off the shelf. very easy ammo to reload. i haven't bought factory ammo for mine in about a year now. hope you get your remington back in good shape. i also own several remingtons and have been very pleased with them also.
     
  14. ChicagoJoe

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    I just got off the phone with Remington and am pleasantly surprised. They received my rifle last Friday and the following Thursday (after a holiday weekend) they had already reamed the chamber and were test firing it to ensure it functioned properly. I could have it back late next week.
     
  15. ChicagoJoe

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    I just received an email today - one week after Remington received my rifle - that it was shipped today. So far, so good.
     
  16. ChicagoJoe

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    My Rem M7 should be delivered tomorrow. Big Green has done a good job so far.
     
  17. Wambli

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    Very happy to hear that. I have a lot of faith in Remington and so far I've been very lucky with their products.
     
  18. ChicagoJoe

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    As advertised, it was delivered today. Now I have to remount and zero my scope, and test it out.

    On a different note, I had been considering a semi-auto .22 and decided on a Rem 597, which I bought today. At Dick's it was $169.99 and Rem is offering a $25 rebate ($145 isn't all bad for a 597). They did not have it in stock and it should arrive in under 10 business days.
     
  19. ChicagoJoe

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    Well, I have good news and bad news. First the good news: Big Green solved my head space issue and if you let the barrel cool between shots my Model 7 shoots one inch groups. Of course, with the thin barrel, if you shoot it hot the rounds are all over the place. The bad news is that the rifle has trouble feeding from the blind magazine. Maybe it was the fact that I could only load one round at a time on my range, but every second cycle the bolt failed to pick up a round from the magazine.

    More Remington bad news... I bought a Remington 597 which threw off a part from the bolt on the third round ever fired through it and the rifle no longer functions. Of course, I cannot return it to the retailer, so I have to send another firearm to Remington.

    I'm now officially done with Remington products. In fact, I am considering trading in my Model 7 toward a TC Venture or Tikka T3 Light. Any thoughts about the relative merits of the Venture vs the T3?
     
  20. willfully armed

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    You should've researched a little before getting the 597. Remington is known for rock solid bolt action center fire rifles, not 22's.

    A 10/22 would've been a better buy, as the marlin 60 would've been paramount to the first two.

    Your problem with the 7 and magazine. Are you short stroking? Are the rounds completely seated in the mag?