Remington 700 Bolt won't close

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing Forum' started by SemperRogue, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. SemperRogue

    SemperRogue New Member

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    Hello,

    Hope someone can give me a solution or good suggestions. I ran it through the search data and I hope I followed the rules properly. At any rate; here she goes.

    I have a Rem 700 .243. I was putting a new stock on it and as I wiped her down I noticed the bolt was "locked" halfway. There is a little play but it won't open or close. I immediately thought it was perhaps the scope mounting screws so loosened them and no dice.

    Took it down to to the basics and noticed a few things; the safety won't budge and I don't believe it has anything to do with any of the screws.

    My thoughts. I've never experienced this but I'm told maybe I engaged something inside the bolt? Extractor come to mind but I don't know. I thought maybe I left something inside the chamber (cleaning pad) but I don't believe so, I wasn't punching the bore. If that was so it may explain the binding.

    If you got the time, I'd be pleased to hear suggestion and personal cures. Thank you.






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  2. Biohazard2

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    Since your installing a new stock, sounds like you should check the clearance.
    Sometimes the stock needs to be cut to clear the safety.
    May be hitting the trigger.

    Maybe the action screws need to be adjusted(raise or lower the torque)
     
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  3. SemperRogue

    SemperRogue New Member

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    I thought so too but I have it out of the stock and no solution. The bolt seems to have locked halfway. A little play up and down but no movement otherwise. I'm tempted to just vise it and start torque'ing see what gives. I won't. I'm fairly certain it something to do with the bolt itself but I don't know.

    I'm new to my area so I'm don't know of any gunsmiths. Phx maybe but I'd rather hear personal solutions and get myself out of this bind. I hope. lol

    Thank you for your suggestions though. I will let you know if I do solve it, might help someone else. All about the sharing.
     
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  4. Catfish

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    Don`t force it. My guess is that it is something simple that you are missing and if you force it it could get alot worse. I just got done working on the bolt in a Savage. I spent acouple of days it, but it had several problems, all small, but together they gave me fits. BUT, when I put 3 rounds in a .460 group at 100 yrds. it made it all worth the time.
     
  5. Biohazard2

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    Pull the trigger pins and remove the trigger assy.
    Once that is done there is nothing to hold the bolt but scope base screws and dirt.
    LMK
     
  6. SemperRogue

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    I was looking at that, never done it (messed with trigger assembly) before but I think you're right it seems to be the logical solution.

    Before I do Rem 700 invasive surgery I'm gonna pull the bolt of my .220 and eyeball that sucker but good.:confused:
     
  7. cpttango30

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    OMG SOMEONE CALL CNBC and tell them we have another bad remington trigger.


    WHAT EVER>....

    take some sharpie and color a little around the trigger area in the stock. Put the stock on and troque the bolts properly and then remove the stock and see if there are any marks in the marker.
     
  8. SemperRogue

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    Read my post again, it has nothing to do with the stock.
     
  9. cpttango30

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    OK you just said you replaced teh stock then this problem arose. That would point me to the stock.

    If you think it is the bolt then look at the bolt face.

    1. Is the firing pin protruding?
    If Yes you need to cock the bolt with a screw driver.
    If NO then take a picture of the back underside of the bolt.

    Other than that I am still saying it is the stock rubbing on the trigger. The trigger has lever and springs in it. When I was working on my Remington there was a slight bit of pressure on the front of the trigger housing which caused the bolt release to not work very smoothly i relieved a small amount of wood and my trigger felt better and everything functioned much better.

    If not either one of them you broke something in the swap.
     
  10. SemperRogue

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    You still didn't read my post, that's okay I fixed it. Thanks anyway.
     
  11. Fisherking

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    Well what was wrong? are we just to be left hanging:D:confused:.
    F.K.
     
  12. cpttango30

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    Being a dick to people who are trying to help you out is not very polite. YMMV


    Maybe if you spent more time describing the problem than being a dick it would have been easier to help you.

    Like what half way are you talking about? Half way closed as in the bolt moves forward and got stuck half way to the chamber or...... You went to put the bolt back in and you went to cam the bolt (That means closing it by rotating it) and you rotated it 45 deg and now it is stuck. From what you were saying in your OP it was the latter not the other way.
     
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  13. SemperRogue

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    I had so few responses and sarcastic ones at that I didn't feel it worth the time. Sorry about that, I do have better manners.

    What was wrong? No idea. I took the suggestion of dropping the trigger assembly and that was interesting experience. I suggest anybody doing that have acres of clean surface, lots of small parts and springs to keep track of.

    I dropped the trig. assbly but the bolt wouldn't go. So I worked the small amount of play I had with some generous squirts of lubricant. It popped loose after a bit. Okay halfway through Lonesome Dove. One of bolt lugs had a nasty jagged edge, maybe someone dropped it? Bad day at the factory? - I don't know. I honed it smooth and now locks up like butter.

    The trig. assbly was a challenge but it was put back together and I'm fairly satisfied that its over.

    Thanks for all the suggestions.
     
  14. SemperRogue

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    I don't know you but calling me a dick is something your regs forbids. If it this was real world you'd be on your knees. Rude behaviour I do no tolerate.

    If this is your way of conversing, I don't care for it and I'd rather you just walk the other way. I know you just go to have the last word, it doesn't matter to me but go ahead if it makes you feel better and I don't give a crap if you are some kind of honcho here.
     
  15. Biohazard2

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    Glad that you got it going.
    In the future I have found that if I wasn't sure what I was taking apart, I get a large baggie and do my disassembly in that bag.
    It makes it much easier to find the parts. ;-)
     
  16. cpttango30

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    The trigger comment was a joke. You didn't explain the problem very well then when we or I ask a question about what is going on you just throw back that I didn't read. If you would have said I was putting the bolt back in the rifle and got it stuck half way in to the rifle. I would have agreed with you that it had nothing to do with the stock or the trigger. I would pointed to the lugs or raceway.
    Glad to here you got it fixed. Did you check to make sure the raceway was not galled up? Also did you lap the lugs?

    Yes the trigger can explode on you. I replaced my factory trigger with a timney.

    A note on replacing the trigger don't ever send a remington back with an after market trigger they will pull it replace it with their crap and then charge you for it.
     
  17. glockman55

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    Thanks..didn't know that, I've changed all my Rifle triggers, Rem. & Sav.
     
  18. Fisherking

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    Glad you got it fixed.
    Thanks for letting us know what was wrong. This may help someone in the future.
    F.K.