Remington 700 ADL Varmint

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Mossyoakman3006, Dec 28, 2010.

  1. Mossyoakman3006

    Mossyoakman3006 New Member

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    Just got a new 700 just wondering I want to upgrade the scope it came with a piece of crap chinese scope but I dont want to spend much more than $200on a scope. I want a good long range scope but I dont want to give up quality for magnification, I know you can get a 6x600 for 50 bucks but dont really want to go that route. If someone know of a scope the has both quality and long range performance at a good price I could use the advise Thanks
     
  2. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Optics planet seems to have some nice scopes in your price range. When in doubt, spend more. Many folks will not bat an eye at spending as much or more for a scope than they did for the rifle.
     

  3. cpttango30

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    vortex crossfire 4-12x40mm
     
  4. Mossyoakman3006

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    Spent a little more than I was planning got a Nikon Coyote 4.5x14x40 seems like a pretty nice scope had some good reviews on the web, the only problem people seemed to have with it was that BDC reticle but I already have one of there scopes with that reticle and I really like the BDC what do you guys think?
     
  5. Mossyoakman3006

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    Been doin quite a bit of shooting with this rifle, no complants but havent got a chance to try it past 200yrds, I keep reading that the only real downfall to this rifle is the stock being that it isnt bedded and not free floating. Just wondering could a gunsmith bed it and make it free floating. Havent ever done alot of long range shooting but I'd like to start. Theres not many opions on replacment stocks and to be honest I really like the look and feel of the one thats on it now
     
  6. JonM

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    bdc dials came about for handing out to third rate snipers to get as many shooters in the field as possible to harrass enemy troops. it is a substitute for training and actual shooter skill that really doesnt work that great. my long range scope has mildots and adjustable target turrets with those i can use the dots to allow for changing conditions and different loads via cheat sheets. i know where various loads fall in a given range and can quickly turn the dials to allow for it. you can do it with a bdc turret but its not as easy.

    a decent smith can bed and free float but the real limiting factor is the type of barrel, trigger, and ammo your using. if you got a hunting profiled barrel as in thin diameter you see on a hunting rifle heat warping after a shot or three is you real limiting factor. thats why you see heavier barrels on target style rifles more barrel material greatly offsets and prevents a LOT of the warping that destroys the accuracy of your typical hunting barrel.
     
  7. stalkingbear

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    It would be a simple matter for your local smith to bed/free float your rifle.










     
  8. Mossyoakman3006

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    Would it be a cost effective alternative to a whole new stock like I said I like the stock but dont want to spend alot of money that could be used to by ammo and practice, what would a round about cost be for this work?
     
  9. Wambli

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    Nope it won't be. The factory synthetic stock on the Varmint ADLs is a good starter stock just to get the gun shooting but even bedded and free floated there is too much flex on the factory stock to make it a serious contender for long range use so at some point you'll want an upgrade so you'll be spending the money twice.

    For a little more than what the gunsmith will charge to pillar bed (regular bedding is useless in this stock) and free float you can pick up a Bell & Carlson Medalist stock which is a world class stock for that gun. Even with the aluminum bedding block you shoud still bed the recoil lug area (cheap or you can do it yourself) but once you do that I can almost guarantee you the rifle will outshoot your capabilities for a while.
     
  10. Wambli

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    He said he got a Varmint ADL. That gun comes with a Remington varmint profile barrel. Not quite a target barrel but heavier than sporter weight. All the ones I've tried have been more than acceptable shooters from the factory.
     
  11. Mossyoakman3006

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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdUhYz0q30o]YouTube - Remington 700 SPS varmint bedding therifle action part 1/9[/ame]
    This is where i got the idea that bedding the stock that was on the rifle would be worthwhile he only tested it at 100 yards so still not sure what it would do further ranges, but seemed like a vast improvment from the original groups any thoughts???
     
  12. Mossyoakman3006

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    Sorry this is the before and after
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd5YAlRHYnk&feature=related]YouTube - Remington 700 Before and After Bedding[/ame]
     
  13. Wambli

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    I didn't say it might not improve the groups it shoots. You asked if it was cost effective and I still say no. If you do the work yourself for the cost of some epoxy it's worthwhile. To pay a GS to do it is not in my book. I just don't see the factory stock as a worthwhile long term option if precision shooting is the end game. The SPS and ADL lines are GREAT values but the stocks are the weak spot. I have bedded a boatload of them on to good stocks for myself, family and friends with great results.

    This gun started life as a 700 SPS Varmint in .308. NOW it's a consistent .5 MOA shooter. Bedded on to a B&C Medalist stock. After seeing how she shoots my buddy upgraded to a Leupold Mark 4 scope to really stretch her legs because she is worth the investment.

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    This is a 3 shot group with Remington cheap bulk UMC .45 gr HP .223 ammo out of a 700 SPS Varmint bedded on to an HS precision stock.
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    To really unlock the potential of these guns you NEED a good stock and the factory one is not it for the long run. That's why I would not spend any money on it. BTW if you decide to buy a new stock instead, you can sell the factory stock on Gunbroker for $40-50 to help defer the cost of a new one. I've sold a few of them there.
     
  14. Wambli

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    You are welcome.
     
  15. lonyaeger

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    I absolutely agree. Mine started as the same rifle in .243 and I also replaced the stock with a B&C Medalist, only in a different color.
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  16. Wambli

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    Beautiful gun! I have the adjustable version of that stock on my tricked out 40X. B&C stocks are awesome!
     
  17. Mossyoakman3006

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    Lonyeager just wondering where did you get your stock from?
    Thanks
     
  18. Wambli

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    This is a good place for stocks and the carry all the Bell & Carlson models. I also get them from MidwayUSA.com.

    Here is my completely rebuilt 40X in a Bell & Carlson Tactical Stock
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  19. lonyaeger

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