rem 700 7mm mag or 30 06

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  1. powderski14

    powderski14 New Member

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    Hey everybody....I'm sick of using my dads guns for deer hunting and am going to order soon. Went to the local dealer and i like the remington 700 series. What caliber will be better the7mm mag or the 30 06. I will use it for short shots where i live which are about 100yrds or less and also need it for 2-300 yrds out in kansas. Ive done a little research and some say the 7mm will ruin a lot of meat. Is this true? How much recoild does one have over the other. Only rifles ive shot are my dads 308 and 270wsm. I like the both of them just Ive heatrd good things about the 7m and the 06. Hopefully you folks can help a guy out and give me some input. Thannks
     
  2. IDVague

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    I can't comment on the 7mm with any experience, but the .30-06 is one of the best all-around cartridges ever produced, IMHO. I have a Remington 700 and 742, both in .30-06. The 700 is extremely accurate up to 150 yards (for me, maybe more for a good shooter), and the 742 shoots nice groups for an auto, the best I ever had. I used .30-06 when I still hunted deer most of the time. In heavy underbrush, I used a .30/30, .44 Mag, or 12 ga. slugs.
     

  3. Josey Wales '94

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    Agreed with IDVague. The .30-06 will take anything in North America, but not recommended for the "Great Bears". From foxes to moose, it'll do the job. If you want a good brush gun go with a Browning Auto in .30-06, or my favorite, a .30-30 Lever.
    -Also Winchester makes their old 1895 Win in .30-06, .30-40 Krag, and one other Winchester round I cant seem to think of, the .408 Win? or was it .458 Win? The latter seems more plausible. I'm gonna get one some day, but they're quite expensive.

    Ah, but I was wrong, which only happens occasionally, it is the .405 Winchester!
     
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  4. joshfireart

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    one riffle 30 06 or 308
     
  5. Snakedriver

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    I'm a 7mm Mag. guy myself. I love the flat tragectory of the 7mm at long ranges, but the ammo is expensive. I reload, so that helps lower the cost per shot. That said though, the .30-06 is also an excellent caliber and it's widely available at more reasonable prices than the 7mm. For that reason, I'd say to go with the 06. :)
     
  6. stalkingbear

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    For no more than you're going to do with it, I'd suggest a 7mm08 or a .308. They both have more than enough range and power to do anything you'll need. They're both also extremely accurate and low felt recoil.
     
  7. Snakedriver

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    I agree with Stalkingbear and .308 is like .30-06 in that there's plenty of affordable ammo around to shoot.
     
  8. spyderfan

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    My 7mm is used as a sheep gun good at long distances last sheep 500 yards or something like one shot one kill oh I hate sheep my muscles ache just thinking about packing that thing out.
     
  9. spyderfan

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    Another thing 7mm=expensive
     
  10. jpattersonnh

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    I'll chime in. I also am a 7mm Rem mag fan. You need to reload. I find the 30.06, .270 in the same rifle as I have, a Savage 110, have more felt recoil. I always used 175gr sp for larger game, well I tossed that notion. I now use 140 and 160 gr barnes XTP for distance. Recoil is very light and they kill just fine. Don't waste your time w/ 140gr Nosler BT, they suck. Very accurate, but little penetration when they hit bone. Standard 150gr sp do very well all around. I would also look at the 7-08 and .308 for your needs.
     
  11. Bucktweet

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    The 7MM Mag is a great caliber but if most of your shots are within 100 yds I wouldn't recommend it. It has been known to tear the meat up at that distance. I would go with the .270, 30-06 or my personal favorite, the .280. A good 140 gr .280 boatail will do just about anything and not kick the crap out of you.
     
  12. dteed4094

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    Go with the 30-06, its cheaper than the 7mm, more accurate than the 30-30 and more versatile (many more available bullets). Ammo sold anywhere. The 7mm isn't a bad choice but the 270 will do anything the 7mm will do out to 300 yds. Magnum is just a word that describes the casing design.
     
  13. spittinfire

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    7mm is a bit much for less then 100 yards and a 3006 will certainly reach out to 300. Can't go wrong with a 308 either.
     
  14. joshfireart

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    and horse power
     
  15. dteed4094

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    At one time it meant horse power but not so much any more.
     
  16. jpattersonnh

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    Sure it does! In an engine!
    Edit: Has anyone seen the OP on this thread?
     
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  17. dteed4094

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    Agreed , JP. 7mm or 30.06 either, flip a coin or make a decision on our personal opinions. I have 06s but thats my choice. others have 7MMs that would be their choice, and rightly so. They are both great calibers for what they are designed for. It's up to you to pick one after researching. I am sure you wont be disappointed with either unless you want something outside the overlap of their capabilities. Either will take down any big game animal in North America efficiently. One is a little flatter, The other is a little more versitile as far as bullet choice and is somewhat less effected by external conditions. Get a ballistics chart, study it, then pick one. Or, get one of each. Both are perfect if you reload, one is cheaper if you don't. 308 is good, 270 is good, 7mm.08 is good, they each have their own Idiosyncracies. Read Opaws sticky.
    It is my understanding that the reinforced rim on the 7mm is for head spacing and not to make it a magnum, please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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  18. joshfireart

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    on most belted magnums you should set your dies to head space on the shoulder not the belt. as far as the 30 06 and the 7mm rem mag go i own both but if i have a choise and i do i hunt with my 338 win mag and i practice with my 22 250 ;)