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Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by COLDdeadFINGERS, Nov 11, 2012.
Which is best
We need details man DETAILS.
Exactly what will this rifle be used for?
Yeah, what he said ^
Ceterus parabus, I would prefer the .30-06. It's not overkill for much of anything the .308 isn't, and is humane for a wider range of game. Accuracy differences are negligible.
30 06 in my mind is overall better. It will do anything the 308 will, accuracy is negligible like was already stated, and I personaly like the ballistics better. The cool thing about the 308 is its military, but that is just politics. Lots of better rounds available, but the military still uses it.
The military uses 7.62x51 nato not 308. They're almost identical cases,but way different operating pressures.
Ballistically,either caliber 30/06-308 is a toss up,but the 06 will beat the 308 on the heavier bullets due to case capacity size.
Recoil is a lot less with the 308.
either one will suit your needs well. there is a small ballistic advantage with the 30-06 over the 308 when heavier bullets are used for larger game. the 308 is just the little brother of the 30-06. both are fine cartridges and it might come down to whether you want a rifle with a short action or a long action.
for me the choice was easy. i own both!
Sounds as if the .308 will suit me fine as I already have an M1A 7.62x51. Thanks for all the input. So I'm looking at these models.
Since you have to provide details i will chime in.
As the others said the 30-06 will do everything the 308 does, but it will do it better. More power, better ballistics (depends on ammo, gun, etc)
Do you not like the recoil? Only thing i can think of where the 308 is better. It has a much lighter recoil.
I really don't find that much difference in recoil between the two.
If you aren't needing to use the bullets on the heavy end of the spectrum, then the .308 is fine.
If you are looking for a lighter weight rifle for walking around hunting th e.308 and it's short action can save you some weight. The action is also going to be a bit more rigid to aid in accuracy. The smaller case volume allows for more consistent ignition with lighter loads.
If you want to go after heavy or dangerous game and need to use bullets in the 200 and 220 grain range, or want to reach just a bit further, then the '06 is your Huckleberry.
Since you now reveal that you have a .308 semi-auto. Having a bolt rifle with compatible ammo makes sense as well.
If you're using factory ammo only, flip a coin.
If you hand load, the .30-06 by a mile!
Sorry, only the 1st part was supposed to be in quotes.
It depends on what you mean by "better." Better for one person might not be better for another. I personally think there are more advantages of the .308 over the .30-06 and I believe that the shorter length action and the shorter easier to carry cartridges are better. Thus the .308 would be better for me, but not necessarily better for someone else. I like the .30-06 only for it's brass. I use the '06 brass to make .25-06, 7x57, and 8x57 brass.
Wirth hand loads at equal pressures the .30-06 beats the .308/7.62 by 150-200 FPS.
The .30-06 is also more amenable to bullets over 175 grains.
All of which is moot, of course, if you handcuff yourself with factory ammo.
I have both, Huscavarna 30/06 bolt action w/3X9 scope, BLR .308 lever action and a single action Rossi combo .308 w/3X9 scope. All 3 are tack drivers and all 3 have custom loads that I put together myself. In heavy wooded areas I use the BLR, open sights and because its a little shorter. Either 30/06 or .308 is perfect for big game with the right loads. Be careful mixing .308 and 7.62X51 CUP (chamber) pressure is a lot higher in commercial .308 rounds.
I am debating between the same calibers before I buy my first hunting rifle. I plan on hunting more paper then animals so was leaning towards 308 and because the biggest animal I might hunt is moose. Can anyone tell me if stnd. 308 chambered rifles can shoot the NATO round since it has the higher pressure as noted above. I was looking at bulk ammo and assume the high qty. bulk ammo is the NATO
You can shoot NATO surplus in a 308,but shouldn't shoot 308 in a barrel marked 7.62 x 51 NATO.
It's just the opposite of the 223 vs 5.56 x 45 issue.
My main hunting rifle in the continental U.S. is my Remington 700 BDL chambered in 270 Win.
I have taken elk, bear, deer, antelope, and even a moose with it. Now that was a lower 48 moose.
I did hunt, and shoot an Alaskan moose. There I used my .338. And I am glad I did. I hate my .338. Chriorpractors are exensive.
Ok. Thanks for all your input. I found a rifle I want. Remington xm2010 300 win mag.