reloading is it worth getting into

Discussion in 'DIY Projects' started by jekyllandhide, Dec 6, 2013.

  1. jekyllandhide

    jekyllandhide New Member

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    I have been researching some reloading equipment and supplies and just don't know if it will save me any money I know you can custom build loads, but all I will do is deer, coyote, and just target shoot now bad then can't afford a lot play or aka target practice. I'm shooting 270 by the way
     
  2. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Provided you can find the correct components, manuals, equipment, it could possibly save you money.

    But the break even point could be in as little as 100 rounds or 5000 rounds.

    Do you shoot your 270 enough? If you are shooting 100 rounds a month, then go for reloading. If you shoot 25 rounds a year, it may not be worth it.

    The other side of reloading is that you can tailor a round that works better in your rifle than the generic loads of commercial suppliers.
    But that requires research, testing, additional equipment, and investment in different powders and other components.
     
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  3. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    Only if you like high-end quality, custom-tailored rounds,

    at the WWB price.
     
  4. sensei9

    sensei9 New Member

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    Been reloading with my dad since I was 16yrs old. The equipment set up will pay for itself quickly. You will be able to tailor loads to your rifles harmonics for less than minute of angle accuracy. And you will find much more variety of loads, bullet weights ect. for your shooting enjoyment. Dad had a 270win load, 110gr bullet for varmint that would literally explode on impact:eek:. It was a blast.
    Just make sure that you get god equipment. Especially a good scale, either an RCBS 10-10 scale or an electronic one. Powder weights ARE critical when loading!!!
     
  5. jekyllandhide

    jekyllandhide New Member

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    They have a lee beginner set at grander mountain for 129.00
     
  6. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    Skip on that set-up.
    I have always used Lee Turret Presses,and Lee dies,but there are a lot of things that come in their "kits" that are pretty useless/cheap.
    You can piece together a good reloading set-up for a little more than the price of these "kits".
    (1)You need a good press,doesn't matter the style or brand.They all make decent presses,whether it's a Single stage,or Turret. For a progressive,Dillon is IMO,the only way to go.
    (2)You need a good beam scale. I like the RCBS 505,but there are many other brands/models that will do. The Lee scale works,but is a PIA to use.
    (3)Die's-Whatever brand you want to use. Nothing wrong with Lee's
    (4)You'll need a good caliper to measure your cases,and OAL of your cartridges.
    (5) For Rifle cartridges,you will need a case trimmer. The Lee case trimmer's are cheap,and work really good,but there are many others that cost more.
    (6) Since your starting out,buy a copy of the ABC's of Reloading,and read it from cover to cover. Then buy some reloading data manuals.The powder mfg's have their own,and most bullet mfg's have their own.
    The more manuals you have,the better.
    There are also many places online that have reloading data,but use it at your own risk unless it comes from a trusted source.

    You can buy most of what you need cheaper online,and even find great deals for used reloading equipment on Ebay and other sources.

    Reloading doesn't really save much money over buying factory ammo,but you can build better performing ammo for each of your guns,than buying the same bullet loaded in premium ammo.

    Once you get into reloading,you will never buy factory ammo again. I've been reloading over 30 years,and the only factory ammo I ever buy is when it was a really great deal,and mainly only for rimfire ammo.
     
  7. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    reloading in the beginning isn't going to save you money. most people don't reload because of the factor of money, that is just a side benefit later on.

    reloading allows you to load premium ammo that is tuned for your guns at significant savings most times. certain cartridges are more cost effective to shoot more if you reload, when you compare them to the cost of factory ammo.

    Example. a box of premium Winchester BT ammo in 280 Rem. cost me about $44 for a box of 20 rounds. even if i purchase new brass to reload and using premium components, i can reload 20 rounds for about $32. next batch of20 using my once shot brass, now drops down to about $12 for those 20 rounds.so after the first loading, i can shoot about 80 rounds for the cost of one box of factory premium ammo.

    in the beginning you will have the cost of the reloading equipment, dies, powder, primers, bullets and brass. IMO, in the beginning you are not saving any money, but making an investment into being able to make your own custom or premium ammo, that is tuned to your guns.

    reloading allows a person to make ammo that is not offered as factory ammo. allows you to fine tune the ammo for maximum accuracy, velocity or energy. you have more control over the ammo you shoot in your guns in regards to quality control. if there is a problem, then you know exactly who is to blame!

    my first suggestion before buying one peice of reloadingg equipment is to buy the book, "ABC's Of Reloading" and read it several times. get an understanding of how ammo is reloaded. get an understanding of what is needed. learn about the dangers of reloading. after reading it, then come back and ask more questions. Amazon.com carries the book new and used for usually $15 or less.

    reloading is a good addition to shooting guns. it is safe as long as you follow the safe procedures and heed safety warnings. there is very good reason for them. they ae there to keep you and your guns in a safe condition.
     
  8. Anna_Purna

    Anna_Purna New Member

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    Reloading will save you money, if you buy Primers, Bullets, and powder at todays prices. Only if because the prices on these components are always going to go up. So stock piling today will only save you money down the road.
     
  9. gr8oldguy

    gr8oldguy New Member

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    I just got back from the range. I shot a box of 380, 9mm and 45 acp. My cost for 3 boxes of ammunition was probably $9 - $12. They were all reloads and they shot great. Yes you can save a lot of money by reloading. I used a single stage Lee press for years and just graduated myself to a Lee turret press a year ago. It's a great hobby and I wouldn't consider not reloading. I forgot to mention that I cast my own bullets. That makes a huge difference when it comes to saving money. Everything I use is Lee. Had nothing but good luck with them for many years. good luck
     
  10. Jagermeister

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    Reloading is saving me quite a bit because I can only hunt with lead free ammo.
     
  11. jekyllandhide

    jekyllandhide New Member

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    I started reading the abc's of reloading book it was a sample on nook I've been meaning to get the full version and finish it. I would like to load a 100g bthp for coyotes that's what made want to start the hobby I would shoot more if I loaded my own ammo. Thanks everyone for your input you guys/girls are always a help.
     
  12. jekyllandhide

    jekyllandhide New Member

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    I'm sorry but we can't have a wounded animal die of lead poisoning. No for real I'm sorry that was sarcasm
     
  13. Vincine

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    I did the numbers on this a while back when the ammo shortage appeared. This is what I learned:
    When ammo is $carce, so are primer$.
    Reloading is about marksmanship ballistics, you'd be able to make match grade rounds for the cost of bulk. If sub MOA isn't a 'need', then it's not a cost savings.
    You need to have more time than money.
    The break even point for me on a fully indexed 9mm production set up was two years.

    I'd rather spend time at the range than with ultrasonic shell cleaners and/or the reloading bench. For many it's the other way around.

    I don't know about a simple small scale set up for someone who mostly hunts. You'd use a lot less than a target shooter. I think it would make the payback even longer.

    Take a look at used equipment. The stuff is built well and cheaper. In fact, if you can, take a look at someone who's actually reloading.

    Before I'd get involved in reloading rifle rounds, I'd get involved with black powder.
    Before I'd get involved in black powder, I'd get involved with PCP air guns.
    Before I'd get involved with PCP air guns, I'd get involved with archery.
    Which is sort of what I'm looking into now, but that's just me.
     
  14. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    as some have mentioned, it's also about how many rounds you shoot per year if it's cost effective. if you are only shooting small amounts of ammo per year, it might be more cost effective to spend the money on different brands and weights of factory ammo to find out what works well in your rifle.

    only you can realistically justify whether it's cost effective to you and your needs. if i only reloaded for one gun and caliber, and only used ammo for sighting in and hunting, i would probably not reload. i reload for about 12-13 different cartridges in rifles and pistols, currently. when i was shooting much more, i generally would shoot more in a weekend session than most hunters would in several years, on a weekly basis. it was not uncommon for me to shoot anywhere from 60-80 rounds in a rifle testing loads and to shoot several different rifles in various calibers testing loads. so shooting 150-200 rounds a weekend were normal for me. if i didn't reload, there wouldbe no ay i could shoot that amount of ammo per weekend!
     
  15. JonM

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    i got into loading when i bought a winchester model 70 in 458 winmag. in the mid 80's a box of 525 grain shells cost around 45$ for 20 rounds. i could load 20 of that same bullet for about 5$. i could also load ammo that wasnt offered in factory loadings lke the venerable 350 grain round nose and 300 grain hollowpoint. in a 458 winmag a 300grain hp will scream out at about 2650fps!!

    today IF you can find 458 winmag they run about 125$ for 20 rounds... i load 20 for about 12$.

    the important thing i discovered was that loading is down right enjoyable and it opened doors to firearms and loadings that i wouldnt have consider due to cost or ammo avalability. plus you get to shoot a LOT more.

    loading gives you a deeper understanding of firearms. highly recomend it
     
  16. Kraj

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    I don't shoot a lot of rifle, but I shoot a ton of handgun. Buying lead bullets I can reload 40 for 6.20 a box. (not buying anything more than 1k at a time)

    I've saved 2 grand this year over buying factory ammo after I payed for the initial investment.

    This year I shot around 6k rounds, last year I was lucky to break 900.
     
  17. Vincine

    Vincine New Member

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    You were able to get primers?
     
  18. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    I cast my own bullets. I can reload most pistol cartridges for less than $4.00 for a box of 50. You will save money if you are someone that shoots a lot. But there is something else to think about. I keep a good stock of primers and powder. I try not to let myself fall below 500 of any type of primer. I always have another can of powder when I open a new one. And when there is a really bad ammo shortage I am often the only one at the range. I always have ammo. That right there is reason enough for me to be a reloader.
     
  19. Wcorker4

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    I have found I don't save any money. The reason for this is for the price I shoot a lot more though. Hehe. So the best advice I can give you if you decide to reload is get a manual an read it. Multiple times and understand what you will be doing ago you do it safe.

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  20. volunteer0925

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    Just to throw my .02 into the posts.
    My perspective is this, along with the customization of your personal ammo, the costs savings are real depending on your perspective and you can be building ammo and stockpiling it for future shortages.
    The initial investment is no different than working on your own vehicle, you have to buy the special tools but you save in the end along with an education, so goes reloading. The auto repair tools, the reloading tools and the learned skills will be something I hand down to my boys now and when Im dead and gone, put a price on that.... ? Priceless!