Red dot sight recommendation?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by txpossum, Jun 13, 2013.

  1. txpossum

    txpossum New Member

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    I have an original Ruger .44 magnum carbine, the Deerstalker. It loads via a tubular magazine in the forestock, and does not use the rotary mag that later models did.

    I've gotta admit that it's been sorta ignored lately, and I thought I'd put it to more use this summer. As part of that process, I was thinking of putting a red dot sight on it, but am not as up on modern optics as I should be, so am looking for suggestions on a decent little red dot sight that won't break the bank.

    Recommendations?
     

  2. CHLChris

    CHLChris New Member

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    Wow...what does "break the bank" mean? A Fastfire III is in the $300 range and doesn't look as tactical as some of the tubular RDS's. A Vortex SPARC is on the smaller side and costs about $200. On the more expensive side, the Aimpoint PRO would be awesome, but probably overkill on a rifle that you don't need the always-on feature. The Vortex Strikefire is closer to $150...

    I just bought a Bushnell TRS-25 at about $100, but I'm using it for a rimfire. I'm not sure it could withstand much .44mag.
     
  3. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    strikefire or sparc from vortex are excellent in the budget price range. ive got a ruger 44 carbine tube fed im using a nikon monarch 1-4x. ive got a sparc and a strikefire both are able to withstand the recoil but the gun jumps too much for a dot sight to be really useful i like the nikon on it better.
     
  4. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    I've used one if the Bushnell TRS 25 red dots on a AR, and a Marlin 336 in .30-30. It is small, fairly light and should do fine on a Ruger carbine.
     
  5. txpossum

    txpossum New Member

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    So, are you saying that perhaps a red dot scope wouldn't be the best choice for this gun? I was thinking that such a sight would make it a quick pick up sight for moderrate distances -- 50-75 yards. Like I said, I'm not up on modern optics, and have never used a red dot sight before.

    I also have a Marlin 1894 in .44 magnum with a 4x scope on it, so I was looking for something that wouldn't be a duplicate.

    I might not even be tempted to put a sight on it, if it hadn't been drilled and ready for one when I bought it.

    Thanks
     
  6. txpossum

    txpossum New Member

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    Actually, let me ask the question I should have asked in the beginning. Although I have had this gun about 5 years, it rarely gets shot. One reason is that, although it is possible to use the iron sights with the scope mounts currently on there, I find it annoying. So, I thought, why not put a scope on it? A red dot system crossed my mind, as -- well, as I don't have any firearm with a red dot sight, and I thought it would fit the purpose I would use this gun for, a 50-to 75 yard, fast handling little carbine. (Hunting with this is illegal in Pa, where I currently live). But something that would fit on the existing mountss would be nice.

    I have historically been much more of a handgun person, and only recently began to become more interested in long guns. I am also not that knowledgable about modern optics.

    So, what suggestions for a scope/sight would you have?
     

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  7. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Im not saying you cant use a red dot, you certainly can. Just in my opinion its not the ideal application. Red dots are great for fast moving whether the target is moving or you are or both thry arent very good for hunting deer where you want some magnification with a decent field of view to spot that buck way back in the tree line.

    Red dots dont have any magnification. You can get a magnifier for them and the vortex sparc and strikefire comes with a 2x doubler but it narrows your field of view so small its nearly impossible to scan a tree line.

    Im not trying to talk you out of getting one just laying out the negatives of dot sights and there are some substantial ones.

    Dot sights are strictly short under 200 yards not even as versatile as the worst iron sights due to the nature of not having the ability to "split" the dot with the target.

    They will serve your purpose as long as the batteries hold out. Typically dot sights are used with qd mounts so if something happens to battery or the electronics fail just flip a lever pop the sight offand use the irons.

    That isnt even remotely possible with a ruger carbine. You would also have to take the rail off and by the time that happens the deer is gone or the hunt is ruined...
     
  8. purehavoc

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    I say put a nice 1-4 power scope on it . It still has some magnification if u need it yet still easy to pick up a target on 1-2x . I use a Nikon monarch African on my AR . One of my most favorite scopes for that reason easy to shoot with both eyes open for me
     
  9. Amsdorf

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    +1 on the Bushnell red dot. It is not expensive, it does the job and it allows you to experiment around a bit and if you decide you want something better, you can always upgrade to a more expensive optic.
     
  10. txpossum

    txpossum New Member

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    Thanks for all the suggestions, you've given me some good recommendations. I appreciate being pointed in the right direction.
     
  11. Overkill0084

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    This was my thought as well.
    I have a Vortex Strikefire on an AR. While it's OK, it's not really my cup of tea. It will very likely be replaced in the not too distant future with a 2-7x scope or similar. For range and other general purpose use, I think it is a more versatile option.
     
  12. hardluk1

    hardluk1 Active Member

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    For a dot Ultra DOT is a good brand that handles recoil better than many. But I would put a 2-7 or 2-8 power scope on it.