Recommended rifle for between 300 to 1000 yards

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by rmsmith76, Jun 1, 2013.

  1. rmsmith76

    rmsmith76 New Member

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    Hi all, just joined up at my local rifle club and was wondering what type of rifle you would recommend for shooting 300 to 1000 yards. I don't have a great deal of money to spend but having said that i dont want a cheapie either and rifles are new to me as I have always been into shotguns. Any help would be appreciated..
    Cheers from OZ
     
  2. hardluk1

    hardluk1 Active Member

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    You have picked a impossible rifle to find with out knowing what your dollar limit is. You could buy a basic savage /stevens 200 as it is nothing more than an old school savage model 10. Then over time upgrade what ever you may not needed as in barrel or stock and trigger up grades but you can shoot in a lower class to start and learn. Buy in 308 to start with as there is some good factory match grade ammo to get you started with. You will need some reloading equipment down the road and many single stage kits can get you started affordably. Do spend money on a good scope up front. A sightron 36 power br is a affordable quality scope that will serve on the range well. - http://swfa.com/Sightron-36x42-SII-Riflescope-P40522.aspx

    Rifle- retail $420, lgs $ 350 or less. stevens 200 in 308
    trigger- Rifle basix- $89 will give you down to a 14oz trigger-http://www.riflebasix.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&selectOpts=1&products_id=181
    Scope - sightron 36xpower BR- $434
    20moa Scope base- $ 94- http://www.eabco.com/store/scope-mounts/warne-tactical-20-moa-scope-bases-picatinny-style/
    Rings- $28 dollars- http://www.eabco.com/store/scope-mounts/warne-maxima-fixed-rings-black-all-heights-to-fit-1-tube/

    Then what ever rifle rest you can justify. from the THE ROCK on up and rear bag.

    With the stevens 200 rifle you can do any barrel up grades at home along with stock up grades and the trigger with no smithy needed.

    That's my 2 cents worth of an affordable way to start long range shooting.

    Now visit 6mmBR site and read .
     

  3. huffmanite

    huffmanite New Member

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    I've nothing against a Stevens 200 as a starter/entry level rifle....own a couple myself. However, I'd recommend a Marlin X bolt action rifle. My three shoot pretty good. Nice thing about the Marlin, has a decent factory trigger that is adjustable.....something a Stevens 200 or a Savage Axis does not. Suggest you consider a Marlin XS heavy varmit barrel in 308 Win.
     
  4. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    does the range even have the capability of shooting a 1000 yards?

    have you ever shot close to a 1000 yards?

    how much is your budget to spend on this rifle?

    have you considered that the need for higher quality optics are going to be expensive? like really expensive.

    my suggestion, start much closer and with a good decent accurate rifle with good optics and learn to shoot first before thinking about shooting at a 1000 yards. learn the basics first. being new this is where you need to start.
     
  5. gunnut07

    gunnut07 New Member

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    My suggestion is to use the search function first. I know there are currently at least 2 threads on the front page of this section that are talking about long range shooting and rifles.
     
  6. rmsmith76

    rmsmith76 New Member

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    Thanks for the replies, as I said this is all new to me and I was told by the manager that I would need something that could shoot 300 to 1000 yards. I've never shot any sort of distance targets before as I'm a clay shooter, but really want to get into rifles.. My little 22 that I use for rabbits is definitely useless on the range..lol.. And I've been told to look out for a 308 or 223 target rifle, and of course I had no idea where to start
     
  7. HockaLouis

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  8. hairbear1

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    Mate what exactly are you going to shoot to warrant trying to nail something at 1000 yds.
    If you can't stalk up to a pig or goat with in 100 yds or closer than you better give it away now. Shooting animals at 1000yds is a very precise bit of work requiring some very expensive gear and your hit/miss ratio is very high.

    I can sneak up with in 100yds or less on pigs and goats using the wind and cover to my advantage using my 30/06AI.
    It takes a lot of practise but in the end the rewards are great.
    The last pig I dropped was up near Tullamore in NSW at Xmas at a range of around 50yds.

    A .308,.270 or 30/06 will drop most critters in Australia as will a .243 and you'll shoot most game somewhere between 50yds out to 200yds generally.

    For just shooting foxes or rabbits a .222,.223 or 22/250 will do for the longer shots out to 300yds but you don't really need some super you beaut whiz bang gun with laser sights to shoot most of these critters.

    If it's deer your after especially Sambar then it becomes a different game as for Red and Sambar your going to need a good projectile and calibre like a .308 or 30/06 or better because a lot of shots are somewhere between 50yds out to 200yds tops in a lot of cases because of the thick scrub they're in.

    So to make it easy what are you actually going to be hunting so that we can give you a bit better info?
     
  9. rmsmith76

    rmsmith76 New Member

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    Not planning on hunting out to 1000 yards, this is all for target shooting at the range.. :)
     
  10. rmsmith76

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    I'm looking to spend around $1500 - $2500 on a rifle, strictly for target shooting at the range as I'm no where near good enough yet to start trying on animals at these sort of distances. As I said, clays and shottys have been my thing for a while, so rifles are all new to me.
     
  11. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    check into the Savage 12 series of target rifles. here's a link to them.

    http://savagearms.com/firearms/models/
     
  12. ttsl

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    you'll either spend $5000 a year on ammo and as much more on trips to the range, or you'll be nothing much of a shottist at such yardages.:) such shooting is mostly bs, cause everyone is just GUESSING about the wind, mirage, etc at such distances. some guess better than others, but they still miss a lot.
     
  13. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    are you making rounds trying to piss off people?

    your lack of knowledge becoming readily apparent. and now you're an expert on long range shooting along with your expertise on other types shooting as well?:rolleyes:
     
  14. Jagermeister

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    My recommendation. CZ-550 synthetic with varmint barrel chambered in .308. The Mauser action is smooth and chambering the round is quick. This is important because long range competitions sometimes have timed sections. You need to accurately put so many rounds downrange by a certain time. Varmint barrels are thicker and does not heat up as fast. The heat will mess up the harmonics and you will be all over the place on the target. You will need great optics for this type of sport. It will cost a lot more then your rifle. High magnification with HD lenses. You will see why looking through a scope at a 1000.
     
  15. hairbear1

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    The TRG range of rifles are a good starting point for target shooting but these are target only not hunting.
    If hunting is going to be part of the deal then unfortunately you can't get the best of both in 1 rifle especially in the target rifle to hunting rifle bracket as it's one or the other.

    In the range of money you want to spend look at Tikka, Sako, Howa, Steyr, BRNO, Remington and get it in .308 loaded with a good 150gn pill in match grade projectiles and spend some good money on a good scope like Zeiss,Leupold,Doctor,Swarovski, Kahles etc in a variable scope.

    To get the best out of the rifle you'll need to reload to see what this particular rifle will like as rifles like women are finicky things at times and what works in 1 rifle may not work in another,
    Rifles like shotguns are a matter of choice and what fits you comfortably and recoil will be another rthing that you'll need to consider although if your using a shotgun then something like a .308 shouldn't present a problem to you.
    I'd see if I could try and get a shot out of a few different rifles/calibres before laying out any decent money to see what suits you.
     
  16. jpattersonnh

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    A no go in Oz!

    A target gun and a hunting rifle are very different. If you want to shoot paper. you can do it fairly inexpensive.
    Jager makes a great suggestion.
    Why not look at a Howa package gun? The HB are very good and the optics are not great, but will do.
    http://www.legacysports.com/hogue-heavybarrel-varminter
     
  17. rmsmith76

    rmsmith76 New Member

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    Thanks guys for your input, that's the great thing about this forum is you can ask questions without feeling stupid.. :) as this is all new to me, I really appreciate your help. Although I feel some people should keep there negative thoughts and opinions to themselves...lol... Like my parents used to say, if you've got nothing good to say than Dont say anything at all...
    Cheers from OZ
     
  18. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    some of us actually know a little bit! just have to muddle through it sometimes though!:eek:

    i will add this, the longer the distances you will be shooting will require higher end optics. my rule of thumb is, you can't hit what you can't see.
     
  19. rmsmith76

    rmsmith76 New Member

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    Thanks axxe55, appreciate your help man....
    Cheers
     
  20. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    you're welcome.

    JP did make a good point about target rifles and hunting rifles. though they can interchange either duties, they tend to work better if kept to one specific duty and function IMO. personally i think a hunting rifle should be used for hunting and not target shooting and vice versa. just my thoughts.

    also if used for target shooting, muzzle energy isn't near as important for punching holes in paper. but ME is very important with a hunting rifle and hunting humanely and ethically.

    have you give thoughts to maybe having a custom target rifle built? just an idea.