Rear flip up

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by ctshooter, Nov 29, 2013.

  1. ctshooter

    ctshooter New Member

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    So my super wife ordered me a BCM 14.5" flat top middy with fsb !!! Shhhhhh I'm not suppose to know!! Doesn't come with rear sight. Was looking at the Diamondhead. Wondering if any one here has one or has used one, and their thoughts about the diamond shape peep. I tried looking thru one at LGS but hard to develop a real opinion with it not being mounted.
     
  2. Anna_Purna

    Anna_Purna New Member

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    have both the standard and the diamond shaped rear sights that came with my Windham. I prefer the Diamond (star) shaped sight for faster acquisition.
     

  3. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    I am assuming it is going to be registered as an SBR or has a Comp. or Flash Hider permanently attached to make it a legal 16" inch barrel and not an SBR. I have a set of Diamond Sights and like you, the verdict is out. Seems to be awful busy to me if that makes sense. Too many angles in front of my eyes! KInd of distracting to me. Maybe this is just due to the fact I have been shooting traditional irons for so long? But I do agree with Anna it seems to be a little faster? :confused:

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  4. Anna_Purna

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    By looking with both eyes, on the target and not the sight, the points on the diamond make it much faster for me to aim and fire. Instead of trying to line the hole to the post and then move to the target.
     
  5. ctshooter

    ctshooter New Member

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    It has a comp pined and welded ( the laws in my state don't allow for threaded barrels so even if it were a 16" it would have to be welded) (flash hiders are against the rules here as well)

    I think the fact that it was just different was really throwing me off, so I held off buying till I could post here about it. I respect the opinions of the folks here, and I like to get as many opinions as possible.

    Thanks for the input, but please anyone else that has or has used the sight please keep the comments coming.
     
  6. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    I have a set of diamond head sights , they are decent but they dont function any different than a set of Magpuls . Honestly I prefer the magpuls ,
     
  7. sweeper22

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    Don't skimp on quality, but go ahead and save yourself some money and weight. In other words, I advise Magpul MBUS. They're $40-50 delivered, tough as nails, totally functional with a simple and ergonomic design, and widely available. They just plain work in every way...and I've tried spendier options.

    There are many other very good fixed and flip rear sights. Not much competes at the same price though. If you have no optics and no intention to add them, advantage to a fixed rear sight. But if this is a rifle with magnified optics or a RDS, flip sights make more sense.

    Magpuls can be found at great prices on EBay or Amazon (take care to be sure you're not bidding on the PTS versions). If you're in the market for other AR stuff, PSA often has excellent package deals that include MBUS sights. I just bought a Magpul MBUS F/R combo for $65 delivered off EBay...like 30 seconds ago.
     
  8. chloeshooter

    chloeshooter New Member

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    Quite impressed with my Troys
     
  9. ctshooter

    ctshooter New Member

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    I have magpul mbus on one of my rifles and they do work perfectly, just saw the diamondhead at the LGS and liked the look so I gave them a real look see. They feel pretty stout, lock into the flipped up position securely, but couldn't decide if I liked the shape of the peep. Lets face it when you have been using sights with a round hole in them for as long as most of us have anything different is strange. Not strange bad just different. So I figured I'd ask the people here their experience with them. I don't mind spending the extra $$ on the sights, but I don't want to spend it twice.
     
  10. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Best rear sight on the market is the matech rear sight as issued on govt m4's. Second best is the magpul mbus for its simplicity and ruggedness. Even though the magpul is mostly plastic its more damage resistant than steel steel sights.
     
  11. Argyle_Armoring

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    I think the Diamond head allows for easier centering of your front sight post inside the rear aperture. I still use the regular round aperture but there's nothing wrong with the Diamond head.
     
  12. jord1985

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    Troys on my DDM4 no complaints... Go for it
     
  13. Ibmikey

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    Matech sights can still be found on Epay for about $40. and it is as good a sight as any priced much higher. As indicated Magpul sights are "outta sight" (could not resist that one) rugged, easy to adjust and stay on zero.
     
  14. sweeper22

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    Get whatever will serve you best. Your money, your rifle. I've had Troys, Daniel Defense, Rock River, and PSA metal sights. They all worked quite well. But I found Magpul MBUS to be more practical (for my tastes) than any of them...and the fact that they're lighter, less expensive, and available in several colors is just a nice bonus. I'm also a fan of their durability and ergonomic design.
     
  15. Anna_Purna

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    They (Diamond, have more than the diamond shape sight). CT, do you plan on putting a scope or red dot of some kind on there as well, or keep it iron sights???

    If getting a scope some day down the road, I'd go with the magpul polymer kind and save the money.
     
  16. ctshooter

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    Yes an optic is in the future, but that is going to be a while down the road. That is going to be a real hard decision.

    So your saying save the money and put towards an optic.
     
  17. sweeper22

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    What kinda optic do you want?

    There are some inexpensive ones that are abolsute junk, and then there are those that are high performing values. I have both cheap and relatively expensive optics, and have been quite happy with the performance of Vortex red dots ($100-200) and Nikon ProStaff magnified scopes ($140-220).

    I actually like my Vortex RD sights about as well as the EoTech XPS2-0 that I paid $500 for, and would struggle to offer any good reason to go the EoTech route. I paid $120-180 for each of my Vortex RDS.
     
  18. Anna_Purna

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    Im saying buy the magpuls, they are good, (unless you have a gas block on the front and shoot magazines as fast as you can pull the trigger, (then never get the magpul plastic ones)

    For iron sights, I prefer my Diamondbacks over my friends magpuls, but I also have a 3x9x4 vortex scope, and an aimpoint for it, and now that the irons are sighted in, they generally are in the down position all the time.

    And for the guys who are going to say learn the irons, if shtf came out, id choose my Ak or Galil over my Ar any day of the week. And both those have Iron sights and I know I am better at those irons than my scoped AR.
     
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  19. Jagermeister

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    Anna is right about the Galil. For iron sights on an AR, the best I have used are HK's, but they cost over 200 euros for the back sights only.:eek:
     
  20. ctshooter

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    Will be getting a red dot, manufacturer still to be determined. The list includes, but is not limited to Eotech, aim point , vortex, hell the truglo on my m&p 15 is still holding zero after several months, a couple thousand rounds.

    The optic choice when it comes is going to be a tedious one. Going to want something light, sturdy, and am not going to want to take a mortgage out to buy it.