Quick question

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by readyrebel, Dec 30, 2011.

  1. readyrebel

    readyrebel New Member

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    Could one could add a suppresor to the end of a stabilizer or vice versa?
     
  2. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    What do you mean "stabilizer"?
    And it's not easy just to slap on a suppressor, there are laws you have to follow, fees to be paid, stacks of paper work for fill out, mental health exams, IQ tests, rectal exams, dental molds, DNA and sperm banking, DMV checks, finger printing, hygiene inspections (didya wipe good?) so on and so forth.

    I'm kidding. There are laws to follow though and some fees to be paid just to obtain one.

    Beyond that, assuming you've jumped through the hoops and rode in the dog and pony show, and have legally obtained a suppressor, what's a stabilizer? And what kind of weapon?

    Stop on by the intro section to introduce yourself when you get a chance, we generally are more friendly with folks we get to know a little! This is a great site, with a lot of good information on many different subjects, some pretty friendly people who like to razz each other and have a good time, and share experiences of the world.
     

  3. readyrebel

    readyrebel New Member

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    i'll definately have to do that!
    And stabilizers are systems (usually built into the barrel) to help reduce recoil. Fairly pricey but a great idea for someone looking to make a .357 kick more like a standard 9mm
     
  4. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Oh, your talking about a compensator. Many of those are screw on, and if you have a screw on one, you may be able to screw it off and screw a suppressor directly onto the barrel in its place, depending on the specifics of the product you get.
     
  5. readyrebel

    readyrebel New Member

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    Yep! i'm wondering if i could use both a suppresor and a stabilizer at the same time though.. i would assume that i could have a custom compensator built into the end of a suppresor but i'd hate to spend the resources and find it doesn't work as planned
     
  6. trip286

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    I'm pretty sure that they would defeat each other's purpose.
    A compensator reduces recoil by redirecting the escaping muzzle gasses in a manner to not allow the rifle to just slam straight back into your shoulder, or to reduce muzzle climb by directing the escaping gasses upwards, thereby forcing the muzzle down.
    A suppressor acts by containing as much of those gasses as possible, and dissipating them in an entirely different way to reduce the report of a weapon being fired. Works much the same way as the muffler on your car.

    And just as with the exhaust system on a car, if there are holes in the pipe before the muffler, then the muffler can't do it's job. And if there are holes in the pipe after the muffler, they don't matter as the muffler's already done it's job.
     
  7. JonM

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    welllll it doesnt work that way. the way a compensator works is by directing gasses from the fired round to the rear and either left or right depending on the twist of the barrel. since its the explosive gasses going boom that suppressors work on its like drilling a bunch of holes in the exhaust pipe between your engine and the muffler kinda defeats the purpose.

    however all that being said there is an interesting effect of suppressors. they also act as a compensator in that they eliminate muzzle jump effectively acting like a compensator. so putting a compensator on a suppressed firearm doesnt work the way your thinking.

    now that i have said that... there ARE quick detach suppressors that slip on a compensator flash hider or muzzle brake. surefire is one company that produces suppressors that slip onto their own brand of hiders and brakes

    hope that helps
     
  8. readyrebel

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    i suppose you've made a good point.. i would still like to try a stabilizer, even if only a 3/4 inch, but i'm afraid that if the dumbed down explanation is accurate that it would be a complete waste of money.
    Thank you for your help, comrade! May i ask where you've acquired your knowledge? It's hard to find people with good, general knowledge
     
  9. readyrebel

    readyrebel New Member

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    And thank you for the direction, i'll have to look into surefire
     
  10. downsouth

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    Surefire company is on the list of lobbyist that supported mdaa. So buy all of their overpriced crap you want. Just know that a portion of your dollar is spent trying to imprison you. Nothing says irony like useing someones own resources against themselves.
     
  11. Secondhand_Hero

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    Well short of overthrowing the government there's not much we can do anymore.. We could veto every company supporting MDAA and still not get anywhere. Might as well stock, lock, load, and hit the road!
     
  12. downsouth

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    I don't have to buy from them or alot of other companies that we mention on the forum. Google it, you will be astounded. I know surefire has the best system for a shotgun forearm light. But mine will stay dark before I buy from them.
     
  13. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    If you were to add a suppressor to the end of a compensator allowing the comensator to still vent gasses, you would have little or no effect on the report. If you were to add a compensator to the end of a suppressor, you would have an expensive, tacticool device that would have no effect except to add weight to the end of the barrel.

    Make a .357 recoil like a 9mm? I hope you are not referring to a .357 Magnum revolver because you cannot effectively supress most revolvers because of the gap between the cylinder and the barrel. THe notable exception would be the Russian Nagant revolver who's cylinder slides over the back of the barrel upon firing. If you hold the gun properly, there is practically no recoil anyway.
     
  14. Secondhand_Hero

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    i most certainly AM referring to .357 magnums and i know for a fact that they can be equipped with stabilizers.. It's pricey and they aren't easily removed like normal but if they're hard-modded they can work. Most common knowledge example being the S&W 500 Magnum. They come equipped with a stabilizer so they don't literally break your hands and arms. Now most magnums don't come with them, i'm not arguing with that, but i've shot a .357 magnum with a built-in 1 inch compensator so they're just as real as anything else discussed in this forum. i truly appreciate the feedback though!! It's really helped school me
     
  15. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    There are ported and or comped .357 revolvers. Trying to add a suppressor to one will be an exercise in futility. The 500 S&W will not "break your hands and arms" unless you have girlie hands and arms.
     
  16. BigByrd47119

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    There are semi-autos chambered for .357 mag, although typically hard to find and expensive as I understand it.

    That being said, to the OP, are you 100% positive your not referring to a .357 Sig? No offense intended, its just we have to make absolutely sure we are all on the same page...
     
  17. Secondhand_Hero

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    Yes sir, it was a 6 shot 'medium' frame .357 revolver magnum. i want to say it was a S&W but at this point it's more of a guess than anything since it's been years ago. i'm not saying it was factory produced with the comp, i didn't bother asking, but it clear as day had one built in.
     
  18. trip286

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    Comps do work on revolvers, suppressors do not, except in the case of a very few exceptions.

    I found out recently that there was a suppressed model 29 in the works at one point. Now that would be bad @$$.
     
  19. gunnut07

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    I have no clue what a stabilizer is for a gun.

    As for having a suppressor and a compensator. Unless you are talking about a flash suppressor or flash hider.

    A sound suppressor or a moderator or silencer as Hollywood likes to call them can be had to slip over. There are more out there than just surefire.
     
  20. boatme98

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    Yep. I had suppressors installed on my boats stabilizers. Very expensive, but it didn't seem to do a thing for the exhaust noise. :confused: