Questions Regarding Taurus Revolvers (Concealed Carry Models)

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by SGT-MILLER, Apr 12, 2009.

  1. SGT-MILLER

    SGT-MILLER New Member

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    I'm really leaning towards something in the .357 magnum range for concealed carry. I am leaning more towards the revolvers lately because of the simple "point and click" interface (i.e. no safeties, slides, magazines, etc...).

    Due to the high prices of revolvers lately, I have thought about purchasing something in the Taurus lineup (like a model 650 revolver).

    What kind of performance can I expect out of a small barreled .357 magnum? How is the muzzle velocities? Will hollow-points expand reliably with such a short barrel? What kind of max effective distances can I expect with this kind of revolver? Does anybody have any good experience with wad-cutter loadings (I've heard they are an under rated defense round, and are gaining popularity)?

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  2. skullcrusher

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    Not sure of the Taurus, but I got to fire a short barrel S&W (656 I believe) last week in .357 (7 shot). Can't say the actual loads, but they were sd with a poly-tip much like my .50 cal muzzleloader 'Shock Wave' bullet.

    I was impressed with the accuracy and the handle of recoil for a second shot. :D

    It was a carry gun of a friend of a friend. It made me want one. Taurus should be less $ than the S&W.

    If you get your hands on one, let us know what you think. I would like to get a .357 short for carry, but I really don't want to drop S&W cash. :)
     

  3. Bigcat_hunter

    Bigcat_hunter New Member

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    Short barreled revolvers are belly guns. They are for close range work. Short barreled revolvers are a great gun for the price but don't expect great accuracy at 30 yards.
     
  4. robbo60

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    I totally agree. A snub is a close range defensive piece. I own a Taurus 605 blue 5-shot .357 and like it alot. It is accurate at close range, lightweight and easy to carry. 125 grain hollowpoints is all I load in it. Hope this helps you.
     
  5. Franciscomv

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    I've got a snubnose fetish, I enjoy shooting them a lot. If the trigger pull is good, they are as accurate as the person shooting them. I had a S&W 640 (older .38 model) that I shot very often and managed very good groups at 15 meters, and quite decent ones at 25 meters.

    I find the fixed sights on most snubbies very comfortable to use, but I know they bother some people.

    Taurus are quite popular in my country, mainly because they cost a lot less than a S&W, they are used as trainer guns at my gun club and hold up well. I shoot a friend's 2" .357 Taurus often, and it works quite well. I've heard the ocasional horror story about this brand, but I think they've improved their quality a lot lately.

    I don't know if Taurus makes a .357 with a 3" barrell, if they do I think that would be a better choice for concealed carry. The ejector rod will be long enough to eject .357 cases reliably, the extra inch makes it easier to shoot and not much harder to carry (unless you pocket carry).

    There are some nice short barrel loads, like the Speer Gold Dot, that perform well out of 2" wheelguns.
     
  6. LegatoRedrivers

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    My carry weapon is a Taurus .38 special, and I've been happy with it. Not quite as concealable as a snubby, but I think that little extra bit of barrel gives me a bit more accuracy and a bit less kick.

    Only problem I've had is that after a long day at the range the screw holding the grip together can get a bit loose. Just keep an eye on it, and carry a multi-tool. ;)
     
  7. bgeddes

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    I carry a Taurus Snubbie .38sp. the 85 Ultralight model. I wasn't really sure about carrying a wheel gun but it carries excellent. It's a pretty well built gun, especially compared to the $300 (what I paid) semi-autos. Very natural shooting gun. My wife, who has issues with her hands due to health reasons, can shoot it well.

    I was looking at the .357 chambered guns too. They are quite a bit heavier. My .38sp+p is less than a pound. The round delivers as much authority as a 9mm, so suitable for lightweight carry.

    Good luck with whatever you choose.
     
  8. freefall

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    I have a Ruger SP101. It barks and is not real pleasant to shoot with full-house .357s. Maybe I'm just a whimp but I've found it to shoot high with everything but 110 grain .357 loads. They're not common and not cheap. I wish the thing had adjustable sights so I could shoot what I want in it. As it is, I'd rather carry my 4" Security Six. Not much bigger but much more shooter friendly.
     
  9. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    ANY high-powered concealable revolver will have an un-pleasant snap to it. But what the hell, you're not target shooting 50 rounds, you're trying to stop a "situation". You'll never notice any un-pleasantness when you are in a hostile situation. Put maximum fire-power in that .357 Magnum of yours... your life may depend on it.

    I can't imagine not having a .357 handy!
     

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  10. KBlue

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    i'm going to need a bib if i keep staring at that King Cobra. Very nice.

    Here's my S&W M60. It's my primary ccw. Nothing is more reassuring than wheel gun reliability at your side. I've never had a problem with the recoil.
     

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  11. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    I know what you are saying! As many guns I own I have always felt "safer" when my .357 is on me. It may be psycological, but I know this pistol will not let me down. It fires everytime and it's brutal on flesh.

    Your M60 is beautiful! You have no reason to drool at my King Cobra...
     
  12. spittinfire

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    I've got a stainless 650 I got for the wife, she wont shoot magnums but she'll shoot
    38's. It was a sweet deal because it came with crimson trace grips which should help my wife should she ever need to use it. After just a couple of cylinders she was shooting a 4" group at 10 yards which is more then enough.
     
  13. KBlue

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    sure I do, I don't have one to call my own! :p. a full-size revolver is definitely next on my list to add to the collection.
     
  14. Megaton

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    I am considering a Taurus 650 series revolver for carry and am curious about the durability of them. I do not want this for a target gun that will get shot thousands of times a year, but I do want to be able to run a few cylinders of both .38 target loads as well as the occasional full power mag loads through it from time to time.

    Is this a reasonable expectation of this revolver assuming that I want the gun to last for a lifetime? I have read that revolvers such as the sp101 from ruger will eat thousands upon thousands of full power magnum loads and laugh at you, where as the s&w pocket revolvers may have timing problems if given the same treatment. Obviously I will not be punishing myself with thousands of magnum loads, so I assume this is a mute point given my expectations?
     
  15. Cactus Jack

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    I have that same exact Revolver do you happen to know what model it is mine has 122 D stamped on the inside of the cylinder hinge but i do not know if that is the model number or not I plan on using mine as a carry gun also.
     
  16. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    This is my Taurus M85UL, .38 Special. I carry this wheelgun often and I'm confident it will do its job. I use Hornady Critical Defence ammo. This little wheelgun is incredably accurate for a bellygun!

    I put Wolff springs in my M85 yesterday and I'm IMPRESSED! It reduced the spring pull DA action by half, and the trigger pull was lowered to 5.0 pounds.
     

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  17. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    If you get a Taurus 85, here is how to change the springs...
     

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  18. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    Next, remove sidecover...
     

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  19. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    Decompress the hammer spring and remove. Do the same with the trigger spring.

    Carefully replace the springs.
     

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  20. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    Re-install the sidecover & grip, test the pistol using Snap Caps. My trigger pull is silky smooth, and light.
     

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