Questions about LR-308

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by FCross7, Aug 12, 2009.

  1. FCross7

    FCross7 New Member

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    Okay, so I've got this thing pretty much broken in and am gonna go to the range on Friday and I'll make sure to take my camera and post a range report when I get home. My question is, I'm thinking of putting a new trigger in and have heard that for the cost, the RRA 2-Stage trigger are one of the better drop-in triggers you can get. Is this true, and if so, for an amateur shooter, is it worth the cost or should I take the money and just buy some more ammo to practice with? Also, any other mods I should be thinking about for 100 Yard target shooting and maybe a little hunting from time to time?

    Thanks in advance for any info or advice.

    -Fred
     
  2. dunerunner

    dunerunner New Member

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    Geeze F...What optics did you put on her? And is the trigger pull that bad that you need to replace it? Don't know squat about the RRA 2stage trigger, is it made for the 308 DPMS lower?

    I know you have this up in another thread but maybe you could copy and paste the pics here too!!
     

  3. FCross7

    FCross7 New Member

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    For the meantime I've got a crappy Bushnell Banner, just waiting for some more funds and I'll be moving that Banner to my 10/22 and getting something better. And the trigger isn't bad, about like all the other AR's that I have shot, I've just heard the RRA 2-Stage is pretty sweet. And I'm pretty sure it uses the same trigger, but I'll take out the Trigger groups for both it and my standard AR and compare them and Friday to make sure they're the same.

    I'll post some more pics with the scope mounted tomorrow. Would do it tonight but it's getting late and I don't feel like fooling with it tonight.

    -Fred
     
  4. dunerunner

    dunerunner New Member

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    Fred, if it were me I'd save the money for optics, but it's your call and...your money too.
     
  5. RL357Mag

    RL357Mag New Member

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    The LR308 trigger sucks when it's new. I wanted to replace mine also, but after several hundred rounds it became much more tolerable. I never took mine out and compared it to my RRA, but I'm certain the pin diameters are larger on the LR308. The RRA 2-stage Match trigger is a great trigger. RRA might be able to supply you with a trigger from their LAR8 which would fit, but I would wait and see how much the DPMS trigger smoothes out over time.
     
  6. FCross7

    FCross7 New Member

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    I'm hopefully gonna shoot at least another 100 rounds tomorrow, I'll give the trigger some time to see if it smoothes out some. I don't need to have a super trigger because I'm not that good of a shot. However, I wouldn't mind the trigger being better than it is now, be it that it smoothes out or I replace it.

    -Fred
     
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  7. RL357Mag

    RL357Mag New Member

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    The pin sizes are different from the .223 to the .308. If you have two AR's just look at the hole diameters for the pins - the pins on my RRA .223 are smaller than those on my DPMS. At one time I was gonna do what you want to do - take them out, but the DPMS trigger got much better over time so I didn't bother. If you take them out, mic them so you know which size pins you need - I believe replacement triggers have two or three different size pins. 0.154" rings a bell, but I think there is a larger one also.
     
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  8. FCross7

    FCross7 New Member

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    Man, your quick. You got that quoted and posted before I could edit my post. I somehow skipped right over what you said about the RRA LAR8 trigger when I read it the first time, that's why I took it out.
     
  9. RL357Mag

    RL357Mag New Member

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    LOL - they call me "Rapid Ray" (no, not the women:D) - you may have a hard time ordering a .308 sized trigger from RRA since they haven't even started manufacturing their LAR8 rifles yet! They are backlogged more than 12 months - that's why I ordered the DPMS - and I'm glad I did since the accuracy is better than what RRA advertises for their LAR8, which is 1.5" moa.
     
  10. FCross7

    FCross7 New Member

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    Hey RL, did you have any FTE's when you first got your rifles? Ive gotten some all three trips out so far. It usually seems to be at the beginning of a magazine, the round comes loose from the bolt but doesn't eject, so both the spent cartridge and the new cartridge are jammed into the locking lugs. The gun is cleaned and oiled after every trip out. It hasn't happened a lot, maybe 8 or 9 out of 260 rounds. Is this just because it's new or is there something I don't know?

    -Fred
     
  11. dog2000tj

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    FCross - I asked RL almost the exact same question a couple months ago. My experience was very similar during the break in. 1-2 rds out of every other mag would jamb or not eject. It stopped after around 160rds and the last 2 trips to the range, about 120rds and I haven't had a single FTF or FTE.

    As far as the trigger goes, I actually like the one that came from DPMS. It's nice and smooth and with a good solid squeeze feels comfortable to me.

    I've been shooting my friends pistol at the range the last few trips and I don't like his trigger at all. It's way to long a travel and too soft. It might just be a comfort thing.

    Now I have installed RRA 2-Stage triggers in my other two AR's based on the reviews and advice of fellow members here. So far the information and advice from the experienced members here has been top shelf. :)
     
  12. RL357Mag

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    This happened to me also during my 100 rd. break-in, but stopped and I haven't had a jam since. The one I bought for my son jammed every other round for the entire 100 rds. but as soon as I used my reloads it didn't jam at all. My son bought 100 rds. of Winchester White Box 7.62 ammo. That crap is useless in a gun chambered for the .308. It's a milspec round that has slightly larger dimensions than the standard .308. Like DOG said, your gun will work fine as soon as it's broken in. I think in their haste to fulfill orders, DPMS must not be spending the time cleaning the chambers and bolt of the finish they apply. If you reload, try some reloads and I can almost guarantee no failures. My best accuracy comes from using 45 grains of Varget behind 168gr. Berger VLD bullets. Sierra Matchking 150's and 165's work excellent also. Your best accuracy will almost always come from once-fired brass.
     
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  13. FCross7

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    Thanks for the info guys. I figured it was just because it was new but just wanted to make sure. And I don't reload, yet. But I've been saving my brass and reading through the ABC's of Reloading and I have Lyman's Reloading manual on the way. So once I finish those and get some money I'm gonna be buying some equipment and supplies and I'll definitely give that load a try. I was shooting the Remington Cor-Lokt 150 Gr, then switch to the Winchester Super X 150 Gr and have been having much better luck with it. I'm gonna post up a range report here in just a few minutes. Thanks again for the info.

    -Fred
     
  14. RL357Mag

    RL357Mag New Member

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    Good deal! I've been waiting on that range report for a couple weeks!:D
     
  15. FCross7

    FCross7 New Member

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    Just got the range report up. Everyone should go check it out.

    -Fred