Questions about lights on a shot gun.

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by Buckethead47, Feb 7, 2012.

  1. Buckethead47

    Buckethead47 New Member

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    I was set on ordering a light kit on gg&g but after being told about chapter than dirt, there are a lot of options I can go for lights and how to mount them. my question is what are the pros and cons of the light mounted to the forearm vs mounted off the forarm. is it worth spending the money to have my light stationary instead of moving with the action?
     
  2. fireguy

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    I don't know of any that move with the action. The light is usually mounted to the magazine tube in front of the fore stock. The light shines where the barrel is pointed.
     

  3. Buckethead47

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    I see a lot of forarms with the rails on it. And not all guns have the tube extension. I'm not planning on a tube extension also. So there are ways that I can mo unt it without it moving with the acton. But I also see light and grip combos so I know people do do out that way. Is it just a preference? The only different affect on the light is extra shock from slamming the action.
     
  4. PanBaccha

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    I own a Mossberg 590A1 and would have to be hard press to see the advantages of having a light affixed to weapon.
    Maybe cats do see better in the dark? ;) But having a light on would only give away one's position to be fired upon.
    I'm on the fence with the pros and cons of this issue.
     
  5. Buckethead47

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    With out a light you can mistake your daughters boyfriend as a bg. Not like any dad will pass that opportunity up anyways... ;) but I'm sure I want a light just not sure how I want it on. And with more thinking about it, I may get a forearm with rail because then I will need a pressure cable. And thats just something to get snagged on.
     
  6. JTJ

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    The pro for a light is identifying your target. Especially important if there are others in your home. It would be foolish to blindly start shooting. A good bright tactical light can blind the BG. I have turned off the lights to see what I am up against in the dark. In very dark conditions, you will need a light. Huge difference. The lasers and night sights dont do you that much good. A laser does not give enough light to see what or who you are aiming at. In dim light conditions, the lasers and night sights do work. I also found out that a muzzle brake will blind you.
     
  7. Buckethead47

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    I would want a light in hd situations. But I'm more interested about placement. Mount it on the forearm or on something solid like extinction tube or barrel. Our on the forearm.
     
  8. bradford027

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    I have mine on the extension tube. Works well for me.
     
  9. fireguy

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    I have a light on my defense shotgun. It has a momentary switch, to me that is a required piece of equipment. You may give yourself away using a light just as you may give yourself away making noise moving through your house. You should know your house better than anyone else, use that knowledge to your advantage.

    One technique for using supplemental lights in home defense/self defense situations is indirect[B lighting. This is where you use the peripheral part of the beam coming from your light to guide you. There are several positives for this technique. First, if you avoid looking at the most brightly lit area you affect your night vision capability less. Secondly, you can disguise where you are if someone is observing the light beam. The process looks like this: use the light only intermittently, do a quick spot check of corners, furniture, etc., where a person may seek to avoid being seen, you should know these places, it is your house! When using the light only turn it on for a few seconds at most, just enough time to get a handle on where you are, obstacles that may be there, such as shoes left out, kid's toys, etc., and to spot things that are abnormal, curtains pulled away, broken glass, door ajar, wet or muddy tracks on the floor. You can move from place of cover/concealment to another place in this fashion without illuming youself and your direction of travel. Shine the light to the side or even somewhat behind you if it has a broad enough beam. It doesn't have to be exceptionally bright unless you have extreme difficulties with night vision. This method of intermittent lighting, varying the spot the light is shining on and varying the beam's angle can disguise where you are to someone observing the light. When or if you come upon a target you have the ability to positively identify it, and make a good hit.
     
  10. Buckethead47

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    So from that last post I get the it doesn't matter where it is as long as you know how to use the light?
     
  11. fireguy

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    It does matter where it is. With a long gun it should be mounted since it takes both hands to operate the gun. It needs to be in a position that does not interfere with the sight picture. It needs to be in a position that will allow the maximum effect of the light. It shouldn't extend beyond the end of the barrel. Some will mount weapon lights to the side of the barrel or under it. I don't have any good info on whether either is better than the other. As I said earlier it needs to have a remote operating switch. Some can be operated from a bottom foregrip with a mechanical movement that turns the light on and others use a pressure switch. I have had horrible luck with pressure switches but I still use them knowing that they can and have failed.
    Good luck.
     
  12. paintsplat

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    any comments on light color? have started seeing lights that instead of white light there putting out red light, red light doesn't bother night vision, but can u see well enough?
     
  13. nastyogre

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    I have a surefire railed forend on my 500 with an e-series light mounted at the six o'clock position. It works just fine and all I have to do is move my hand slightly forward to get either momentary on or constant. Surefire lights can take abuse so I never really worried about the light moving or the effect of recoil on it. The only drawback to this set up is a slight shadow from the barrel so if you wanted absolutely no shadow you would have to mount the light farther forward, as in on the barrel or magazine tube. Both setups work great if you ask me. The important part is practicing with the system you get and making sure it works for you. Just my two cents. :)
     
  14. Nun

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    Light on HD shotgun is a must. Your not going to walk around with it on. Off on to identify/blind you target.
     
  15. Buckethead47

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    Thanks for the info. What kind of shai are you getting at the 6 o'clock position? I've been thinking having my light at the 3 o'clock position. They make pressure switches that aren't that are just a short strait cable. I picked that position because of me being left handed. I'm not sure on the light I want yet haven't looked at them yet, all I know it's it needs to be led.
     
  16. JTJ

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    There are replacement forearms for some models of shotguns that have the light built in. Very convenient, more user friendly and less chance of snagging on something. Not cheap but neither is a good light.
     
  17. mjkeat

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    Looks like the Surefire foregrip replacement w/ built in light is a popular option.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzC929yt-IU&feature=related[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOolVTGt8bY[/ame]
     
  18. Buckethead47

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    Those videos are intense!
     
  19. mjkeat

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    People train like that all the time. Lot of people feel everyone should take classes like that (carbine, handgun, precision rifle, shotgun) on a regular basis.
     
  20. nastyogre

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    Shai? Shadow? The shadow I get is from the light being to far back in relation to the barrel. So when the lights on it casts the shadow up (12 oclock). Some guys don't like this because the whole purpose of having the light is knowing your target. If you can't see their face while pointing the weapon at their chest/ center mass then the light is useless. The surefire light that I have is bright enough that even with the slight shadow I can easily tell whether it's a friend or foe. Again practice, practice, practice. Know your weapons system, your life (and the life of your loved ones) depends on it. :)