Question on reloading the 38 super

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by hogslayer, Mar 5, 2013.

  1. hogslayer

    hogslayer New Member

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    Got a question on reloading for the 38 super. Can you reload 38 super with a set of Lee carbide dies. Can I just back off or space the dies out long enough
    to accommodate the extra length of the super round????
    Thanks in advance
    Hogslayer
     
  2. Overkill0084

    Overkill0084 Active Member

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    Are you asking if you can use Lee Carbide Dies not intended for use with the .38 Super?
    (If I were to guess, I'd say your probably asking about 9mm Luger?) Y/N?

    If so, no. The .38 super is a straight wall case. The 9 mm Luger is tapered. There will be sizing issues. Though I suppose one could force the issue. It seems unnecessary since .38 super dies aren't exactly unobtainium.

    When in doubt, use the right tool for the job.
     
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  3. hogslayer

    hogslayer New Member

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    Thanks Overkill I forgot that the 9MM luger was tapered. Will get a set of 38 super dies and go from there.
     
  4. Missouribound

    Missouribound Active Member

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    Since you are reloading yourself...I've found that you can use the same load for 9mm and the 38 super. It's a bit under factory for the super, but unless you are building a defense round it works fine. At least it does in my PT 38s
     
  5. hogslayer

    hogslayer New Member

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    Thanks for the reply but the question was could I use the same dies.... I have since found out the answer is no. the 9MM case is tapered and the 38 super is straight walled. So.... will get a set of 38 super dies and charge on!!!
     
  6. Missouribound

    Missouribound Active Member

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    Right....but you can use the same bullets as the 9mm
     
  7. hogslayer

    hogslayer New Member

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    Correct. I cast a bunch of 120 and 124 grainers today. Going to start with them. Then will see what other molds I got laying around. lol Half the fun is working up new loads.
     
  8. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    The new Remington Plus P brass is heat treated for higher pressures in the .38 Super. The .38 Super invented in 1929 was a souped up .38 ACP and has used that old case even after Colt improved the chambers in 1988. :)
     
  9. hogslayer

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    I will check them out. Know of any place that has them in stock?
     
  10. Missouribound

    Missouribound Active Member

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    It's funny you mentioned Remington. When I first bought my PT38s I bought Remington shells at the gun shop. Took it right to the range and fired 2 shots and the brass got stuck in the barrel. Cleared it, fired two more and same thing happened. Took it right back to the gun shop and they said "all guns don't like all ammo"
    Turn out it was just Remington it didn't like. 10 years later and thousands of rounds later...no misfeeds, no failure to fire or eject. I do compliment Remington though...they asked me to send it to them, they tested it and said it was up to specs, but they send me a refund anyway....that impressed me. I stay away from Remington now. As far as the 38 super goes, I've used Blazer, Magtech, Fiocchi and of course Winchester with no problems.
     
  11. hogslayer

    hogslayer New Member

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    I have 300 rounds of starline brass comming today. will try that and keep the remington problem that you had in mind. Thanks.
     
  12. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Huh? You can't heat treat brass to make it stronger. Anealing will make it softer. Brass gets work hardened.
     
  13. hogslayer

    hogslayer New Member

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    Yep know what you mean. I have annealed many a 223 my self.