Pushing the Trigger

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by lukeisme, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. lukeisme

    lukeisme New Member

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    Guys I am so frusterated at myself and I need some suggestions. I just bought a new taurus pt 145 millenium pro and for some reason I just cant get myself to stop pushing the trigger so no matter what I keep hitting low and left. I have never had a problem with this before. I know its me because I had a bud fire it and he is dead on!!! Suggestions would be great!!
     
  2. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Try using just the tip of your trigger finger and also see if you can gently pull the trigger straight back. A lighter touch should help.
     

  3. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Have you tried having someone load you a magazine and include some dummy or spent cartridges?? This is very helpful, especially with new shooters, but I haven't seen anyone that can't benefit from it since I learned about it. And yes, even me. :eek:

    How much dry fire practice are you doing?

    Are you more used to a tuned trigger?

    A little more information might help. I don't know if you have a copy of this right handed target, but I take these, print them out, put a 3" shoot and see in the center and everyone loves them.
     

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  4. skullcrusher

    skullcrusher New Member

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    CA has a great suggestion there. It may also be just learning the gun/trigger. The 'snap' of the trigger should be a surprise, and you might be expecting it. If possible, get some snap caps and have a friend load the gun for you so you don't know when the snap cap is coming. Have your friend watch your trigger pull and nothing but your trigger pull. The target is secondary until your friend tells you what he/she sees.

    I dunno, just thinking out loud. :)
     
  5. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Are you using a two hand grip?
     
  6. utf59

    utf59 New Member

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    There are a lot of good suggestions above. You already took care of the biggest step — having someone else shoot it.

    You said you never had this problem before. How does the grip size of this gun compare with your others? And does your friend who shot your new gun accurately have hands about the same size as yours? My wife has a pistol that she is deadly accurate with, but the thing is just too small for me. For me to get on target at all, I have to do so many contortions with my grip hand and trigger finger that it looks like I'm trying to throw gang signs while I'm shooting. Sometimes a gun just doesn't fit.

    Try comparing your natural grip on the Taurus and some other guns that you know you're accurate with. See where your trigger finger naturally falls. If your finger falls in a different place on just that trigger, that may be your problem.

    Best of luck.
     
  7. NGIB

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    While I'm not a huge fan of lasers for actual shooting - they are great to spot problems while dry firing. Pick up a cheap pistol laser and practice until there's no movement during your trigger pull...
     
  8. sebbie

    sebbie New Member

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    may i suggest??

    I had a British officer train me with the BAP, the Browning High Power to you. He had me dry fire it until my hand was numb. I played with it for weeks dry firing. I learned every error I was making with the trigger by watching the sight picture move when I pulled the trigger.

    I would suggest using a "gun condom" (snap cap) for this to help protect the firing pin.

    You guys will be kind and let me know if I say something stupid won't you. This is all kind a new to me.
     
  9. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    You basically said the same thing I did. The laser makes it VERY easy to see the problems you create with your technique...
     
  10. Jpyle

    Jpyle New Member

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    +1 on the laser. I do exactly that, zero the laser to cowitness the iron sights, aim it at the center of the chart posted and see where the dot is after I pull the trigger, after checking and rechecking that the gun is unloaded of course. If it's outside the 10 ring you have a good idea of your problem.

    Laser I use was purchased on e-bay for $25. Probably would not hold zero in real world use but it does what I need it to do.

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  11. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    CDNN generally has cheap ones that work good for dry firing as well. It really does help to hone your grip and trigger control...
     
  12. JoeFromSidney

    JoeFromSidney New Member

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    press straight back

    I have the same problem. I just have to concentrate in pressing the trigger straight back. Maybe with enough practice it will become automatic.
     
  13. MB44

    MB44 New Member

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    I had a similar experience. I have been shooting IPSC for years and have always used the traditional grip for IPSC where both your thumbs point forward. On double taps I always had the problem with low and left, just like you. Recently I took an ICPS course ( no I did not misspell IPSC....), and the instructor insisted that I tried the grip that the Israeli used for this technique, which is pretty similar the way you grip a revolver with two hands, i.e. your left thumb crosses over the right thumb, and both thumbs point as much downwards as possible. This totally changed my shooting, and it became obvious in the 777 drill. From concealment you draw and shot seven shots at seven meters at seven seconds. Once I changed the grip I was able to do it in 3 seconds….. and all shots were nicely centered.
     
  14. IGETEVEN

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    That's my grip/shooting technique as well. ;)

    Works very well for me. :cool:


    Holding the pistol

    "The pistol is held in the strong hand as close to the bore axis as possible, fingers firmly, almost convulsively, griping it. The thumb is not pointed forward but bent down and pressing against the palm. Index finger is of course laid along the frame of the pistol, on the trigger guard respectively. The strong arm is along the side of the body with elbow bent so the forearm is horizontal and the gun points naturally towards the target. For the basic exercise the gun is already loaded with a bullet in the chamber and the hammer is cocked."

    http://www.mouseguns.com/kilofile/israeli.pdf
     
  15. lukeisme

    lukeisme New Member

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    Thanks guys!!! After I got done being pissed at myself I went out and bought a laser and mounted it. I sat there for about an hour and be dammed by using the tip of my finger on this one it cured most of the problem. I think the grip is just a little smaller then on anything else I own in a larger or semi-larger frame. My little Keltec and NAA I actually use more finger to make them work. Might just be something odd about me. :rolleyes:
     
  16. gorknoids

    gorknoids New Member

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    Dial in a little thumb pressure. I was milking the grip weak-handed a few months ago and backing up the side that the gun was turning to fixed it immediately.
     
  17. gatopardo

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    think scratch

    In my opinion, rather than a " pushing a button" kind of pressure, think instead " scratching an small itch" kind of touch, also if you are right handed use the left to steady the pistol and Vice versa if you are a lefty.
    I use a beaver and this tactic gets me good groups at 15 yards:)

    Also like someone else pointed out, I use the tip of the finger rather than the joint.:cool:
     
  18. Jay

    Jay New Member

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    You can also place a dime, or spent brass casing on top of the slide, and dry fire without knocking the dime/casing off.........
     
  19. gatopardo

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    Now this sounds interesting, i'm looking for a spent cartridge right away to check it out:cool: