Pure Inquiry

Discussion in 'NFA/Class 3 & FFL Discussion' started by KAG, Sep 13, 2009.

  1. KAG

    KAG New Member

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    I attend a liberal school and when I mentioned I am applying for my FFL, three things happened:

    1) Lost friends (not really a bad thing)

    2) Made enemies ( again, not really a bad thing)

    3) Was persecuted as a conservative gun humper (not a bad thing either)

    But during all this someone said that they (BATFE) will let anyone have an FFL, and there is no screening for people with exsessive speeding tickets and other misdemeanors (I guess like a MIP or a PI), allowing irresponsible people to have access to all the wonderful perks.

    My question is, is it true?
     
  2. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I am not a lawyer, and I've never played one on TV. :p

    Check with the appropriate authorities in Texas where you live. An FFL is a Federal Firearms License. You'll also have to check with the Feds.

    Legal advice from the internet, no matter how well intentioned could have all sorts of interesting consequences. :eek:
     

  3. KAG

    KAG New Member

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    I am not asking for any legal advice, I know better, but I was just interested if anyone one has had an experience with this, first or second hand. I understand it might be a touchy subject, if it is no repley is needed.
     
  4. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    So you're applying for an FFL while you're in college? Where do you intend on setting up your business?

    I'd think it might be kind of difficult being a licensed firearms dealer while in college...
     
  5. meek

    meek New Member

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    Your at A&M and your having issues with the gun control leftist? Really? No really? How does that even happen, I'm in Austin so I understand it but I've seen more rifle racks in trucks in college station than anywhere. What's happening to America?
     
  6. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    OMIGOD- do you mean that the BATFE will issue a FFL to someone with a speeding ticket???? :eek:

    BATFE is a FEDERAL agency. Regulations prescribe the qualifications to hold a FFL, whether dealer, maker, or collector. Those regs do not address nickel and dime violations of the traffic code. They DO address felony convictions, drug use, domestic violence, and being an "undocumented immigrant". It also addresses mental illnesses, which seems to be rampant among your classmates. I am referring to hoplophobia- an unreasoning fear of weapons- and yes, it is a valid psych diagnosis. Drop THAT on them!

    Why, next thing you know, the FAA will be giving pilot's licenses to people with parking tickets, the FCC will be giving Radio Station licenses to people that let their license plates on their car expire......... and don't even get me started on those folks that tear the tags off of mattresses! :rolleyes:
     
  7. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    Just curious. Are you really applying for an FFL or is it some type of carry permit?
     
  8. notdku

    notdku Administrator Staff Member

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    What school do you attend? Not Texas State right?
     
  9. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    I call BS on this one. There are no liberals in Texas so how can their be a liberal school? Last time I heard in Texas if you said you were a liberal you were beaten with a crowbar and left in the middle of nowhere.
     
  10. NGIB

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    Actually Tango I saw this change already happening when I left Texas in 92. The big cities like Dallas, Houston, and Austin were overrun by the liberals - much to the chagrin of the rank & file Texan.

    BTW, nearly all colleges are liberal, doesn't matter where they are...
     
  11. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    I was told by a local shop that you have to have a store front to present in order to get an FFL.
     
  12. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    I know 2 people that run a business from their home and have an FFL - but it's extremely rare and very hard to accomplish. One fella has had his for quite a few years and he told me he probably could not get one today as the BATFE is really making it difficult for a non brick & mortar business...
     
  13. c3shooter

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    Spittin- not correct. To get an 01 Dealers FFL, you must have a business, complete with zoning that will allow business in a residential neighborhood, a business license, sales tax number, yadda yadda yadda- but YES, you CAN get a FFL for a home based business, if you jump thru the hoops. I also have 3 friends that do business from home- one is a really good smith.
     
  14. skullcrusher

    skullcrusher New Member

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    So, what I'm getting out of this is that it is easier to get FFL if you have a store front, but if the situation is right and the hoops are leapt and all, it is possible to have a home based FFL. What are the hoops, exactly? Local business zoning laws?
     
  15. NGIB

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    Zoning is a biggie and BATFE requires a dedicated place to conduct the business with appropriate "features". My buddy uses his converted basement that has it's own entrance and alarm system and is really quite separate from the house. The other guy has a concrete external garage that is setup as his place of business.

    From talking to them, BATFE really makes it tough to get an FFL without a formal storefront and is very demanding - but it can be done...
     
  16. KAG

    KAG New Member

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    For those who think I was joking about the leftist commit...
    I will get my Msters in Public Health (Health Policy and Management) From the School of Rural Public Health at the Texas A&M Health Science Center. This school requires all first year students in my concentration to watch and report on M. Moores film, Sicko. In classes such as PHPM 644, Health Policy and Politics I, the teacher walkin the first day and says she is in fact pro Universal Healthcare, and is in fact a Socialist. I also spent over 100 research hours and 20 compilation hours on a Anti-Gun Control Presentation that lasted 30mins before I was timed-out. I got a B becasue of lack of evidence. Teachers and proffesors every day drop deaming comments about rebulicans and conservatives and the organizations they support and that support them. Now tell me again..."there is no liberalism in at Texas A&M". I though it was bad when I was there to get a Bachelors of Science in Biology, where anything Christian is wrong and not one professor I ever had in my upper level classes could leave faith out of the class.

    I have applied for my FFL with my cousin who work with park and wildlife.


    ***Off the soapbox***
     
  17. KAG

    KAG New Member

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    Also, to tango and everyone...

    Liberals know that the best (not fastest) way to change the country in thier direction is indirectly in the education system.

    ...and does anyone really think that anywhere in College Station or Texas for that matter someone would get beat up for being liberal, only on Northgate about 30 min before closing time. :D
     
  18. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    Maybe he ment you had to have a physical location already establshed for the business and if it's a home based business the home would do that. Like i said, I never tried to get one, it just came up in conversation.
     
  19. Troy Michalik

    Troy Michalik Is it Friday yet? Supporter

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    I do have an 01 FFL, and operate from my home. I have had it for about 15 years, so the "hoops" my have changed since I got mine. But with that being said, I was inspected a few months ago, and we sat down at the kitchen table which I told him is where I do my work. It was the first inspection I've had since I first got my license, and I was never inspected before receiving it.

    I was told that as long as I post all of the required signage and cover the required details (gun locks, strawman purchases, etc...) that I was fine. I specifically asked what type of security was required by them for on hand inventory and was told "the BATFE only requires that your firearms inventory be kept behind a locked door, they encourage you to have more, but that is all they require"
     
  20. cpttango30

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    I think a lot has to do with local zoning laws. I know where I live I was looking into a home based FFL to sell on the internet and to my close friends and the county said NO WAY IN HELL are you getting zoning for a home based gun store.

    You don't have to have a business lic here but you do have to submit paperwork to run a home based business and you have to provide what the business does.