Puppy help

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by Mosin, Nov 24, 2012.

  1. Mosin

    Mosin Well-Known Member

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    My gf has a 8 week old Husky, but the thing is impossible to train. No matter how much we let it out, it still uses the bathroom in the house, everywhere. It doesn't have a spot it likes, it just goes when it goes.
    It even uses the bathroom in its crate, which is really frustrating because that's how I've crate trained my dogs in the past. I need some help and advice!
     
  2. Zombiegirl

    Zombiegirl New Member

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    My cousin and friend both breed dogs. Let me see what they say.
     

  3. 25-5

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    The husky needs to be outside a lot. Fenced in, teathered, or leashed. It will then be going outside. Pick a toilet command and stick to it. When it goes use the command repeatedly along with praise.
    Get scent remover for the spots in the house.
    You may have to take the dog out every hour. A couple of weeks should do it. If you both work, just do it as much as you can. The purpose of being out is toilet, not walkies and play time until after a result.
     
  4. Sonic82

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    Use at Dog Carrier/Kennel as it's home in the house. Especially at night and while your away. They usually will not 'go' in it because it's their home. They like being in it so don't think it's cruel. When you let them out and send them directly outside. I just hope you haven't waited too long...you have to catch them young for this routine and you can keep it up for nearly a year...if you do it, buy a big one.


    Ok..I just noticed you are doing the crate routine. Man...it's doing it in the crate?...I would't give up the crate idea. Scold it when it happens and send it outside. Going in the crate is an odd thing, but it's young yet...it may figure it out.
     

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  5. savvyinky

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    I assume you're using an all wire cage? Since it was probably purchased for the dog when full grown its huge for the puppy now. With it being so large it's easy for them to use the bathroom in their cages AND still be comfortable to sleep.

    Some come with a divider that you stick in there while they're growing to make the "living" area smaller. It'll encourage them to not potty in the cage because with it being so limited on space they would be forced to lay in it. I didn't have a divider so I used a piece of plywood.

    Other suggestions, do not leave food out for it to eat. Feeding comes at exactly the same time every day. That way you can control, to an extent, when they will have to go. Also, no water while they are crated. Some dogs will drink out of boredom and thus need to potty often. Mine go 8-12 hours crated without water.

    Lastly, until you can learn how he/she tells you it's time to "go" keep it on a leash and with you at all times. It won't take but a couple days to learn what happens before it potties.

    Does the dog go out loose in a yard to potty or on a leash with someone there? If it just goes in the backyard it may not be actually going, just playing around. Supervision will help in the beginning.
     
  6. Mosin

    Mosin Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, we're in Maine so trust me. It's too damn cold to just hang outside. We watch the dog to make sure it goes, then bring it inside.
    Yes, we have a wire cage, and used the divider to make it smaller. It just uses the bathroom and lays in it, getting wet.
     
  7. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Man, I had the same problem with a beagle. I gave it to a family with 4 kids. Some dogs are just untrainable, it does happen occasionally.

    In the case of a Husky though, those are high energy dogs. Run it's ass off. They're like people, way more susceptible to suggestion when tired or drunk (I don't advocating giving dogs alcohol though).

    That is the first thing I would do, try to burn off as much as the animal's excess energy as I could. And stay away from "high performance" food that is marketed towards hunting dogs. It can also help if you catch it in the act. Interrupt it's "going" with loud sudden noises (clapping, pocket change in coffee can), and immediately take it out.
     
  8. trip286

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    Okay, if the dog pisses or drops a deuce and then just lays in it, you may have gotten a defective one like I did. THAT is not normal behavior, no matter the situation.

    But, maybe a trip to the vet to check on some incontinence advice, or a little Q&A with the vet on the matter might be in order.
     
  9. Wrecked

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    Did you get the Husky from a registered breeder, AKC papers on the dog, etc?

    I only ask because inbreeding has become a real problem with some breeder/puppy mills.
     
  10. Sonic82

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    Or all the shots and no worms. That can make them act like it does.
     
  11. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I agree here. First physical health must be checked.

    Next..........8 weeks? Man, have some patience. That is VERY young. I doubt a puppy that young even has the means to control their urine yet.

    I suggest putting it outside every half hour or so and praising him/her when it potties outside. Praise works much better than punishment when training any animal. Crate the little guy when no one can watch him such as at night. I would not expect a pup to be fully trained and able to hold his/her urine and feces until around 6 months old. A puppy is a lot of work. Be prepared to do a lot of work. Maybe your best bet would have been to get a puppy a little older. Many reputable breeders won't let their puppies go to new homes until they are 12 weeks old.
     
  12. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Seriously, folks. We're talking an 8 week old puppy here. It is not old enough to have bladder/bowl control. Kind of like a 6 month old baby.

    Mosin, the only time I get a puppy is in the Spring for the very reason you mentioned. Unfortunately, you're going to have to go out there with that pup and praise it the minute it squats to do it's business. Animals can't read out minds as to when they are doing right or wrong. We have to let them know through praise. I know it's damned cold out there but you have to be out there with this pup giving it some positive feedback.

    A 8 week old puppy can NOT go all night without being let out. A puppy that age must be let out at LEAST every 4 hours at night when it's not actively playing or eating. In the day, probably every two hours.

    I am strongly recommending, for the mental health of the dog and you humans, to know the facts of what a dog that age is capable of doing and to train correctly.

    http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/cluing-into-a-puppys-housetraining-instincts.html

    http://www.hilltopanimalhospital.com/housebreak2.htm

    http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/281688
     
  13. woody63m

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    Every time it goes potty out side give it a treat immiedatly when he goes in the house dont rub his nose in it he is a puppy you wouldnt expect a baby to be potty trained if he is not in his crate he should be on a leash even in the house my 3 month old rottie is already potty trained with this method only give him water with his meal i also recomend puppy classes at pets smart that class works wonders they help with alot of training we take our rottie every sunday a noon for an hour the class is like six weeks if he goes potty in the house its your fault you were not watching him
     
  14. Mosin

    Mosin Well-Known Member

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    That's what's for me confused. Our other dogs were trained by 8 weeks by crate training, with the occasional mess up. I do the praise thing. I've just never encountered a dog that will go outside for 20 minutes, do nothing, then go in its cage and pee all over itself 2 minutes later.

    It's health is fine. Maybe it's retarded.
     
  15. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    That's what I think was wrong with my beagle. She was almost a year old when I gave up. The new family told me they never did get her housebroken, but the kids loved her so they were stuck with her.

    I still think maybe it could just be a high energy thing.

    Kinda like how my kid would still piss his pants at 4 years old because he was distracted with playing.
     
  16. Sonic82

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    Do you know the background of this pup? I know little about huskys except that they obviously outdoor types and many live with others (pack).

    ...and they sometimes get confused with Malemutes, which are different altogether.
     
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  17. Mosin

    Mosin Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. It was born with a peanut in its head.
     
  18. Sonic82

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    lol!..okay.
     
  19. Daoust_Nat

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    Keep the puppy's cage as close to it's size as you can. That will keep it from going in the cage. You also have to take it out about once an hour for each month it is old. In other words, two hours for two months, and that includes at night. Also put a small pile of treats in a baggie in your pocket. When the dog pees, or poops, give it a treat right then, not when it comes back into the house. Reinforce the behavior you want with the treat. If you wait until you come back into the house, you are rewarding the return to the house, not the bathroom behaviour.

    Good luck. Puppies are a lot of work.
     
  20. savvyinky

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    Here may be part of the problem. He'a not out long enough to do his business if he's coming back inside and going.