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Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by maschinegun, Jul 6, 2007.
What would be better, pump action or lever action gun?
I think it boils down to personal preference. I see no advantage of one over the other.
I agree with FALPhil.
I think its just a personal preference. Out of the two I would pick a lever action. I have had a couple of Marlin and Winchester lever guns over the years and liked them alot. With the new Hornady LeveRevolution ammo out the lever action rifles are more popular now.
Would also depend on what caliber you want. There are very few center-fire slide actions in production, I think Remington is still making a one for "modern" cartridges such as the .30-06; .308; and .270. and there may be a couple being made for the .44 Mag and .357 Mag pistol cartridges. If you want to use the "traditional" tube magazine cartridges such as .30-30 or .45-70, unless you can find a (usable) used one, and they are about as rare as hen's teeth, you are forced to go with the lever gun.
I own a remington 7600 pump action in .30-06 and I love it. It fires 5 rounds quicker than my friends can get 2 off in their bolt actions. It has a free floating barrel and is very accurate with good ammo. Check them out and see, they are reasonably priced, I got mine used for 275 bucks and it was in mint condition. I own a 30-30 model 94 winchester, but like it was mentioned before, they are more for close range bush use. I regularly take bears, moose, caribou, and wolves with mine and several times the shots have been 300-350 yards on large frozen lakes. (possibly farther as distance is hard to judge on open ice- I could barely make out the wolves at 9x power) but they dropped with 1 shot each time, but if the gun doesnt fit you and feels funny when you hold it, then you wont shoot well anyhow, so try some out for fit before you go any further
6 of one
1/2 dozen for the other.
Depending on caliber, something like a .30-06 or .270, you could have a Remington or Browning pump or the Browning BLR lever rifle. I don't if the browning pump is still being made. You could even get into the short mags and belted mags with the BLR. Or get the .308 Marlin Express for power with a traditional lever gun look.
the Marlin Lever in .308 is pretty nice
+1 on that! I also love my 7600 Remington. That said, my first gun was a Marlin 336 in .35 Rem. I loved that gun and wish I never sold it. And as a1huntingsupply said, with the Leverevolution ammo it is even better. Still can't keep up with the good old 30-06 but the Browning BLR can! Try 'em all and whatever feels best in your hands, go for it!
If you mean 308 Win. Marlin never made a gun in that caliber. But the new 308 Marlin is supposed to come pretty close and yes it should be a great gun.
the new marlin has been out for awhile now, called .308 MX I have sold alot since they have came out and sold alot to law enforcement guys, this gun however will not chamber the standard 308
Go for the pump.
The lever guns, especially the older ones, require you to work the action in order to put a round in the chamber. You then have a cocked piece that requires you to pull the trigger to lower the hammer. HELLO! That can be dangerous. I have been present for 3 ND's, and 2 were lever guns. JMHO
Kinda like a 1911, huh...
What's the difference? For a ND to happen, somebody isn't paying attention. They probably should stay with a pump, if that's the case. No offense.
That is true on older lever actions, but newer Marlins and Winchesters have a cross bolt safety that would prevent accidental discharge. BTW, many guns have to cocked to be loaded, and even some with the safety off to unload, as is the case with any bolt action with a two position safety. If I want to de-cock my Taurus PT99, you have to pull the trigger and let the hammer down. What about when you cock a revolver to fire it in single action mode? Same situation. Just have to be careful.
Kinda like a 1911???
Scuse me. I rack a round into my 1911 and then apply the safety. "Cocked and locked" is the term. You cannot do that with the older '94's and 336's you must pull the trigger and ease down the hammer. If your thumb slips KABOOM!
Anyone that compares a vintage lever gun to a 1911 as far as safety goes has probably handled neither.
AHH, yes. But just how do you let the hammer DOWN on that 1911. As for me, if I was unloading it, I would drop the mag and eject the shell in the chamber. Much like I would do for a lever gun. Eject the friggin' things= no problem. I have BOTH, though the lever gun isn't an older model (I wish it was). This process works for me. Guess it's too simple.
The only safety that works is the operator, no mechanical device can cover carelessness or stupidity!
I think I prefer the lever action because I,ve never handled a pump gun that didn't rattle. I have enough noise factors to deal with when hunting without adding a rattle trap gun to the list!
I also believe that the only long guns that can be chamber loaded without having the mechanisem cocked is the single shot and double barrel guns with exposed hammers.