PTR91 or M1A?

Discussion in 'Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion' started by TLuker, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. TLuker

    TLuker Active Member

    3,937
    2
    38
    I'm finally ready to get a good semi auto .308, but I can't decide between the PTR91 and the M1A (Springfield). I'm guessing that the PTR91 will be more reliable and the M1A slightly more accurate, but again that is just a guess?

    So I'm curious as what some of you think is the best and why.

    Also, what sort of accuracy can I expect out of the PTR91. I would think that it would be close to a bolt action in accuracy because of its action, but I've never heard anything spectacular about its accuracy? Can it be dialed in?

    What about mounting a scope. Are there any problems with either?

    Any advice will be appreciate. :rolleyes:
     
  2. JonM

    JonM Moderator

    20,110
    19
    38
    my opinion:

    a good bolt gun will knock both the m1a and ptr91 out of the fight. if you want a semi auto gun that comes close to bolt gun accuracy your pretty much gonna have to go with a ar10 type rifle.
     

  3. anm2_man

    anm2_man Member

    504
    2
    18
    The PTR-91 is a good weapon, but it has its faults. To improve the accuracy, the manufacture tighten up the flutes in the chamber. The down side is you need to use only CLEAN ammo. No MilSurp allowed. They state that on their website. Now they do make different types of PTR-91's. But they do have some models that have the orginal HK flute's. They can shoot Milsurp.

    I was going to buy a PTR-91 a couple of years back, but decided to get the M1A. This gun is happy with just about any kind of ammo. Its really accurate and is a pretty piece of furniture. ;)

    The choice is yours
     
  4. TLuker

    TLuker Active Member

    3,937
    2
    38
    JonM my go to gun has been and always will be a bolt action, but I think WWII pretty well proved that a bolt action is not going to knock a semi auto out of any fight. An unfortunately, I just can't make myself buy an AR anything. I'm not knocking them, but they just aren't for me.

    ANM2 - Thanks for the comments. I don't mind shooting clean ammo, but I would definitely prefer a tough as nails gun that doesn't care. There's just something about knowing I could if I ever wanted to. I've always wanted an M14 and the M1A is the closest I'll ever get. At the same time I always thought the delayed action on the G3 was a great idea that in theory should make that the best performing semi auto? Oh well, so much for theory. :(
     
  5. jpattersonnh

    jpattersonnh Active Member

    5,360
    5
    38
    I think the Cetme, G3, PTR91 rifle is unsurpast as far as reliability, accuracy in a smaller package. But, it is rifle to rifle and shooter to shooter. It can be a PITA to clean if you've not done it. The M1a is easier to deal w/ overall.
     
  6. JonM

    JonM Moderator

    20,110
    19
    38
    i was speaking mainly accuracy wise. our military primary sniper rifle is still bolt action :)
     
  7. Ryno702

    Ryno702 New Member

    111
    0
    0
    And the parts on the G3 and ptr91's can get pricey. They are fun firearms and are a pita to clean if you've never done one. Haha
     
  8. anoltroll56

    anoltroll56 New Member

    4
    0
    0
    Take a look at the Keltech RFB .308.
     
  9. TekGreg

    TekGreg Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

    2,000
    0
    0
    As a previous long-time owner of the actual H&k original, this rifle is a BMW of shooting systems! Accurate to a fault, feeds everything you pump into it, recoils very lightly for a .308 and completely flat and even throws the brass forward and left about 30 feet, keeping with the German principle of throwing everything at the enemy. Out of every assault rifle I tried, this was my go to gun.

    As far as cleaning is concerned, yes, it is more difficult than most simple, inaccurate rifles. However, like everything else that saves your life, it becomes a labor of love, and after you do it 10 or 20 times, it's as easy as any other firearm you own, plus you've gained the envy of everyone at the gun club because you can clean one of those "impossible" h&Ks. :D
     
  10. TLuker

    TLuker Active Member

    3,937
    2
    38
    How much of a difference is there between the PTR91 and an original H&K?
     
  11. billt

    billt New Member

    1,642
    0
    0
    I am currently shooting 2 Springfield Armory M1-A rifles. A SOCOM 16 and a Camp Perry NRA National Match. I like the PTR-91, and I realize that it is a well designed, good performing weapon. I just can't bring myself to spend into 4 digits on a gun made from welded sheet metal with a plastic trigger group.

    When you pick up an M1-A you can feel the "solidness" of the weapon. It just feels right. The PTR-91 really isn't much lighter even though it looks like it should be. Being as both are semi autos you have to be careful with ammo choices, but the M1-A is a very accurate rifle, especially in a National Match configuration. In the end it is all personal choice. The PTR-91 is a bit cheaper price wise. The Springfield Armory M1-A has always been an expensive gun.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  12. anm2_man

    anm2_man Member

    504
    2
    18
    Billt

    Nice looking. I just love my M1A. I've only had it for 6 months, but every time I touch it, I want to shoot it.
     
  13. 75370

    75370 New Member

    204
    0
    0
    Being a bolt action doesn't make it inherently more accurate.
    Buy quality the first time.
    My choices are obvious.

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  14. ahole

    ahole New Member

    154
    0
    0
    In you quest for the answer have you considered an FAL. I have one I built from an argentine kit on an Imbel receiver. best 400 buck spent on a rifle.
     
  15. TLuker

    TLuker Active Member

    3,937
    2
    38
    Yes

    Yes, I've seriously considered an FAL. I already have the FAL's daddy, an FN-49 in 7mm Mauser. That was my second rifle and I've had it for over 20 years. It has never had a single failure and it shoots as accurately as I am capable of shooting with iron sights, but I want sub M.O.A. groups. I just don't think I'm going to get that out of a FAL. I'm guessing that I'll be lucky to get it out of an M1A without sinking a lot into building one, but I know the possibility is there. I've also always been fascinated with the G3 because of the accuracy potential it has due to its action.

    Bottom line is that I'm just like everyone else. I want extreme bolt action accuracy and reliability out of a semi automatic. I don't want to pay anymore than I have to for it, but I'm willing to pay a little extra to get close. I just can't figure out which gun is going to best do that.