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Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by Gerald Sykes, Apr 15, 2008.

  1. Gerald Sykes

    Gerald Sykes New Member

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    for carring a gun on you , would a 32 cal. or a 25 cal.which would be the best to carry
     
  2. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Got to go with a 1911 in .45ACP to be honest. 230 grains traveling at 850 to 900fps can do a lot of damage in a short period of time.

    I don't put much stock in either of the calibers you are looking at. Minimal penetration and minimal stopping power. The .32 is the larger of the two, so if you have really tiny hands, or are so lean you owe muscle mass, that would probably be the better of the two evils, but I wouldn't send my woman out with a .32 into the night.

    Do you have a specific gun you are looking at getting?

    Just my $0.02

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  3. gnoll

    gnoll New Member

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    i would have to agree on this one i go with the man stopping power of the 45
     
  4. Doug1627

    Doug1627 New Member

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    Neither. IMO nothing smaller than a .40 caliber
     
  5. greenjeans

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    If those are the only two choices, take the .32. Some folks must think a lot of them since Kel-Tec has sold a wagon load of them. Maybe not the first choice of most, but certainly better than nothing.
     
  6. chorst294

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    My 2 cents

    If a pocket gun is what you're after, then I would suggest at least a .380 since they come in guns as small as many .32's. North American Arms Guardian .380 and the new Ruger LCP are great, good quality options. I understand the need for pocket guns, but would prefer the proven stopping power of a larger caliber (9mm, .40, .45)
     
  7. tommy2waffle

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    I have always favored the Colt Detective .38 Spc, for the following reasons, 1) easily to conceal, especially on smaller framed people, 2) I don't have to fiddle with safety mechanisms, and 3) loaded with +P's it has tremedous stopping power. One never knows who his or her assailant will be, and if it is a 6'5" 300 pounder, a 32 cal or even a .380 is not likely to do the job. In a defensive situation, with the blood pumping, I do now want to have to concern myself with anything else other than identifying my assailant, drawing the weapon and firing.
     
  8. chorst294

    chorst294 New Member

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    It sounds like you have the perfect weapon for you for self defense. I enjoy the .38 Spl. round since it doesn't beat you up. I regret to say I recently gave up a chance to buy a really nice Colt .357. :(
     
  9. ScottG

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    I've always wondered just how ineffective a .32 ACP really is. Unless we've developed thicker skin, tougher bones and muscles, it seems that the apparently unloved .32 should still do the job. After all, Colt made over half a million of them. Someone must have thought they'd do the job for it to be a production item for over forty years. It seems to me that the little .32 pocket pistol might be a choice for someone recoil sensitive or who can't handle a larger gun. If you can handle it and place your shots well and have the right ammo, I don't see anything wrong with using a .32 as a carry piece.

    Of course I've never had to use a gun, so you may take my thoughts for what they're worth.
     
  10. Mitya Karamazov

    Mitya Karamazov New Member

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    I just want to point out the new Ruger .327 sp. revolver . Everything I have seen on this new cal. looks mighty impressive ! Plus it's a Ruger wheelgun , hard to beat for carry dependabilty far as I'm concerned ,, also Ruger is offering their own version of the Kel-tec type .380 , which of the two , I'd much rather trust my life to.
    Now try not to laugh , or dismiss me as a complete lunatic , but I have , in the past carried a .32s&w revolver , sure it's only about a hunnerd 'n thirty year old cartridge but if you get the bullet where you want it gets the job done. {granted with no room to spare}
    I gotta go with .357mag for true carry though . Complete confidence is great to go out the door with. Like the man says though , damn near any gun is the right gun , if you need it and you got it .
     
  11. pioneer461

    pioneer461 New Member

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    Neither!

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  12. Boris

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    I would disagree with the 32 acp, I understand it is not popular in the US but at one time I did a tour and was issued with a 32 acp Walther PP and was quite happy with it. I didn't obviously have a choice I got issued with it.....
    Now without going into the whys and wherefores I was present in a pub with three colleagues after work one evening having a quiet drink when three masked men burst in.

    They almost immediately identified members of the group as police, the closest bastard fires two rounds from a GP35 at the nearest officer (who was 6 months to retirement and our officeman), as he went down but was able to draw his Walther and shot the assailant, and from the floor put the second man down. By now the pub is in uproar as it was packed.

    Notwithstanding he made a good shot from the floor, and in great pain at the third man, who was making for the door, hit him square in the back. He crashed through the door and into the street (we later believed he was dragged into a waiting taxi).

    I am not posting this as a bit of daring do to impress anyone, because those of you who have experienced these incidents understand it's sometimes difficult to recount, although retired cops are the worst for war stories.

    The point of this being I have a grudging respect for the 32 acp when carried in a quality firearm, and in my view far superior to the 380 (low recoil, additional round, accurancy, penetration etc.).........

    During the unpleasentness I was at the far end of the bar I got into cover had no opportunity to assist. But I didn't spill me pint!

    Oh yes, the police officer man a good recovery and made retirement, still lives where he served, and if still with us no doubt bouncing his grandchildren on his knee.......
     
  13. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills New Member

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    if you want to see the actual effectiveness of the .32 acp round check out:
    www.goldenloki.com

    click on the Gelatin Tests
     
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2008
  14. Boris

    Boris New Member

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    .....I've never been threatened or attcked by a lump of gelatin!......:)
     
  15. ScottG

    ScottG New Member

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    You ain't never had cottage cheese and lime Jello then, have you....:p
     
  16. Boris

    Boris New Member

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    Not lately.........mmmm:)
     
  17. poolshark13

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    both calibers are small for my liking. im still a year away from getting my ccw, but that doesnt stop me from carrying at home. at home i carry a sig p226, 9mm, and always keep my remington 870 somewhere close.
     
  18. mars01

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    380 auto

    If your're looking for a little more stopping power than the .32 try a .380 auto.
    With hollow points the're not bad.
     
  19. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills New Member

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    Met a guy the other day, he feels quite differently about hollowpoints. Says they are the liberal's tool and that they were invented to make cops feel safe,
    as there is no chance of them penetrating a bulletproof vest. Further, he insists that full metal jacket bullets are the only way to go. I don't know if it can be confirmed but this dude says there has never been a single documented case of overpenetration leading to the death of an innocent bystander. Really makes me think about ditching the defensive ammo altogether, now if only someone made good FMJ rounds.
     
  20. Boris

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    In my view the 7.65mm is a better round for a pocket pistol, better penetration, more accurate, far less recoil, and in most pocket pistols more rounds. Only my view 'stopping power' is a factor, but just a factor...:)