Proposed banned guns

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by FlBob518, Jan 25, 2013.

  1. FlBob518

    FlBob518 New Member

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    RIFLES:

    All AK types, including the following: AK, AK47, AK47S, AK–74, AKM, AKS, ARM, MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR–47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK–47, VEPR, WASR–10, and WUM, IZHMASH Saiga AK, MAADI AK47 and ARM, Norinco 56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S, Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS.

    All AR types, including the following: AR–10, AR–15, Armalite M15 22LR Carbine, Armalite M15–T, Barrett REC7, Beretta AR–70, Bushmaster ACR, Bushmaster Carbon 15, Bushmaster MOE series, Bushmaster XM15, Colt Match Target Rifles, DoubleStar AR rifles, DPMS Tactical Rifles, Heckler & Koch MR556, Olympic Arms, Remington R–15 rifles, Rock River Arms LAR–15, Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles, Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles, Stag Arms AR rifles, Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 rifles; Barrett M107A1; Barrett M82A1; Beretta CX4 Storm; Calico Liberty Series; CETME Sporter; Daewoo K–1, K–2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C; Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL, LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000; Feather Industries AT–9; Galil Model AR and Model ARM; Hi-Point Carbine; HK–91, HK–93, HK–94, HK–PSG–1 and HK USC; Kel-Tec Sub–2000, SU–16, and RFB; SIG AMT, SIG PE–57, Sig Sauer SG 550, and Sig Sauer SG 551; Springfield Armory SAR–48; Steyr AUG; Sturm, Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rife M–14/20CF.

    All Thompson rifles, including the following: Thompson M1SB, Thompson T1100D, Thompson T150D, Thompson T1B, Thompson T1B100D, Thompson T1B50D, Thompson T1BSB, Thompson T1–C, Thompson T1D, Thompson T1SB, Thompson T5, Thompson T5100D, Thompson TM1, Thompson TM1C; UMAREX UZI Rifle; UZI Mini Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine; Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78; Vector Arms UZI Type; Weaver Arms Nighthawk; Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.

    PISTOLS:

    All AK–47 types, including the following: Centurion 39 AK pistol, Draco AK–47 pistol, HCR AK–47 pistol, IO Inc. Hellpup AK–47 pistol, Krinkov pistol, Mini Draco AK–47 pistol, Yugo Krebs Krink pistol.

    All AR–15 types, including the following: American Spirit AR–15 pistol, Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol, DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol, DPMS AR–15 pistol, Olympic Arms AR–15 pistol, Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol; Calico Liberty pistols; DSA SA58 PKP FAL pistol; Encom MP–9 and MP–45; Heckler & Koch model SP-89 pistol; Intratec AB–10, TEC–22 Scorpion, TEC–9, and TEC–DC9; Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol.

    The following MAC types: MAC–10, MAC–11; Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol; Military Armament Corp. Ingram M–11, Velocity Arms VMAC; Sig Sauer P556 pistol; Sites Spectre.

    All Thompson types, including the following: Thompson TA510D, Thompson TA5.

    All UZI types, including: Micro-UZI.

    SHOTGUNS:

    Franchi LAW–12 and SPAS 12

    All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the following: IZHMASH Saiga 12, IZHMASH Saiga 12S, IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP–01, IZHMASH Saiga 12K, IZHMASH Saiga 12K–030, IZHMASH Saiga 12K–040 Taktika; Streetsweeper; Striker 12.

    BELT-FED FIREARMS:

    All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms including TNW M2HB.

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  2. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    There are some semi-autos that were not mentioned directly.

    Don't tell me that Feinstein didn't have a "catch-all" phrase.

    (wasn't the M1 Garand used to assault the beaches of Normandy and Iwo Jima?)
     

  3. bobski

    bobski Well-Known Member Sponsor

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    i didnt see M1A.
     
  4. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 New Member

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    Rest assured, if she succeeds in passing this bill, she will be coming after all semi-auto handguns next.
     
  5. FullautoUSA

    FullautoUSA Welcoming Committee/ Resident Pellet Gunner Lifetime Supporter

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    Rest assured that if this ban passes, they'll come for you bolt action "sniper" rifles next
     
  6. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    why is everyone getting worked up over something that possibly will never even see the light of day? some of you make it sound as if it has already been passd and made into law!

    this same knee jerk reaction is the same thing that caused the panic buying
    that drove up prices on semi-auto rifles and ammo and depleted all the stock.

    how many politicians are going to sign into law a bill that if they did could very well end their political career? even the Democrats are scared to pass this bill!

    what this reminds me of is Chicken Little running around yelling, "the sky is falling, the sky is falling!":rolleyes:
     
  7. Jon-in-TN

    Jon-in-TN New Member

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    She's tried this before, I think she just enjoys the publicity it gives her. There's a link on Drudge to a story about how Feinstein doesn't have enough Dem support in the Senate to get her pipedream passed, then it would have to go to the House.
    If anything they will try a magizine ban and the so-called gun show loophole closed, I have my doubts about that even being passed by the House. I have been writing my Senators and Reps urging them not to support any gun control legislation, everybody should fire off some emails to those who are "SUPPOSED" to represent them.
     
  8. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    very much so! keep the pressure on them. get more people to join the NRA or as least some pro-gun rights organization to get the message across.

    with several states proposing legislature to defend our 2nd amendment rights by making it a felony for any federal agent to try and restrict our rights within those states is a huge message to Washington, what we are thinking.
     
  9. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 New Member

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    Just because these proposals MAY not see the light of day dosen't mean we should sit on our hands and do nothing. Keep calling your senators and representative.
     
  10. jharder0002

    jharder0002 New Member

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    I think there's a very real chance in light of the sandy hook shootings. They've got 90% of Americans who have a poor or non existent education on guns or gun safety begging for some form of gun control reform, and their using that fact to paint Semi Auto weapons as the devil. This is exactly what Feinstein was waiting for to push her political agenda.
    Never mind the fact that most people are completely ignoring the mental health side of this argument. Or that the weapons used most commonly in school shootings (such as the sandy hook incident) are not even on that list.

    My plan is not to give any firearms up until this is resolved.
     
  11. 4sig

    4sig New Member

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    Feinstein did have a catch all provision in there it was the button bullet provision which stated that banned would be any button activated removable bullet feeding device which basically covers any pistol or rifle that is magazine fed regardless of number of rounds.
     
  12. 4sig

    4sig New Member

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    Her bill already covers all semiautomatic hand guns under the button activated bullet feeding device (magazines) provision
     
  13. Blackbeard1718

    Blackbeard1718 New Member

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    MY plan, is not to give any firearms up..... PERIOD!

    Cheers!

    BB
     
  14. Capodosto

    Capodosto New Member

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    Obama has already banned ALL guns by executive order and most people don't see it. Explanation: One of the more insidious actions that the government has taken is to start to treat the mere possession of guns as a health issue. The attack is coming on two fronts: 1. By asking the CDC to investigate the "health impact" of gun possession on society, the door is open for the whiny liberals who populate most government health regulatory agencies to create a "presumption" that the mere presence of guns is unhealthy. It will be just like tobacco, cigarettes are perfectly legal and obtainable, but it is becoming more and more difficult to find a place to smoke one. People who do not smoke have been very successful in creating "smoke-free" environments by claiming that they are harmed by "second hand" smoke created by legal smokers. When guns are accepted by the ignorant majority as some kind of a threat to their health just by being in their vicinity, the whiners will start to claim that their "rights" are somehow being infringed by other's possessing them and there will be many more declared "gun-free" zones. 2. The second, and more important problem, is that doctors are being encouraged to ask their patients if there are guns in the household, as if this somehow automatically creates a health hazard for everyone. Once doctors make this information a part of your medical record, the information will be available to insurance companies. Almost immediately, health insurers will try to increase your rates (or not cover you) if you have guns. And liability insurers (homeowners, renters, etc) will be able to deny you coverage if you have guns, at their option. This will happen right after the first shark lawyer figures out that since the possession of guns is now legitimately considered a health issue, he can sue everybody after virtually ANY shooting because "they should have known" that they were creating a dangerous situation by allowing guns to exist on their property. After the first successful lawsuit, we will all be getting letters from our insurers asking us to declare what guns we allow on our premises and if the company doesn't like guns, we will be dropped from coverage. So even though there is no gun ban on the law books, Obama has just opened the door to a situation where insurance costs and legal liability will prohibit anyone from actually owning or using perfectly legal guns. Just like cigarettes.
     
  15. jharder0002

    jharder0002 New Member

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    @blackbeard1718 let me correct myself. Sell/trade anything till this is resolved
    Not giving up any gun I own to the federal or state government without a fight.
     
  16. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Everyone, please "argue" with facts not with name calling and rudeness.
     
  17. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    The federal government elite is declaring itself ROYAL! The out-of-control necon's are passing laws making themselves exempt from every crime under the sun.

    Article 1, Section 9, Clause 8 (U.S. Constitution)
    No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.


    More at the link:

    http://www.ibtimes.com/government-o...-assault-weapons-under-feinstein-bill-1039506

    Not everyone is exempted from owning military-style assault weapons under new legislation [1] proposed by U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein.

    Weapons used by government officials and law enforcement will not be prohibited by the law proposed by the California Democrat, which would prohibit the sale, manufacture and importation of 158 specifically named [2] semi-automatic weapons and ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. Any weapons legally owned before the bill’s enactment would also be exempt, although those firearms would have to be registered in a national database.

    In addition, more than 2,200 types of hunting and sporting rifles and manually operated firearms would also be exempt.

    The ambitious measure seeks to reinstate and expand the federal ban on assault weapons that expired in 2004. While gun control restrictions -- typically extremely unpopular -- have floundered in Congress in recent years, there has been a renewed push for tighter regulations in the wake of last month’s elementary school shootings in Newtown, Conn.

    But gun rights activists, led by the National Rifle Association (NRA), have vowed to oppose any legislative action that could increase regulations on firearm ownership, claiming it is an undeniable violation of the Second Amendment.
     
  18. Capodosto

    Capodosto New Member

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    Insurance companies currently send out requests for information to their customers which ask a whole series of questions, and you have to sign this form and return it by a deadline or they can cancel your policy. There are no laws which dictate what they can and cannot ask, and all of the information goes into their computer. They refer to this information when you submit a claim. For example, one of the new questions that now appears on virtually every "declaration" form for homeowners liability insurance is to ask if you own any large-breed dogs. If you check "yes", you have to list what specific dogs you own. If you check "no", and then your Pit Bull goes out and bites your neighbor, guess what, no coverage. If the mere possession of guns becomes accepted as a "present danger", then the next version of the form will ask if you own guns, and you will have to list them all on the form, which will then go into the computer. As it is, many people are discouraged from getting big dogs because of the extra insurance expense and liability. Is it a stretch to think that some people may get rid of or not acquire guns for the same reasons? Pit Bulls are perfectly legal, but insurance concerns have effectively "banned" them in certain neighborhoods because it is prohibitively expensive to maintain homeowner's insurance. When someone gets a letter from their insurer telling them that their policy rate will triple if they want to keep their "dangerous" gun, I think many people will give up the gun in order to keep their insurance (and their mortgage, since insurance ir required by mortgage underwriters). All of this is already legal, but up until the recent executive orders, guns have not been treated by the goverment as a health issue, so insurers were probably reluctant to try it.
     
  19. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    Cap, you must live in one of those liberal gun hating states! funny thing is i have homeowners insurance, life insurance and car insurance and have every one of my firearms insured on my homeowners policy. hmmm...funny they really don't seem to care how many dogs or guns i own as long as i pay my premiums.
     
  20. Capodosto

    Capodosto New Member

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    "Cap, you must live in one of those liberal gun hating states!"

    Yes, I do. Connecticut, the insurance capital. And I can only wish our government leaders were as enlightened and patriotic as those in Texas! I envy the freedoms that Texans enjoy. If you had snow and a nice ocean to sail in, I might move there.:)