No, Scott, that's not what it means. First, you need to learn how to improve your grip, and discover how to control the pistol's backstrap better, BEFORE you begin to concentrate on watching that front sight.I'm always all over the target. I guess that means I just can't shoot straight....
You should really watch James Yeager's Shooting Missology.
Yes you are, Tom. Don't be mysterious; if you have an objection, state it. Few people take your self-serving posts all that seriously over at Glock Talk; but, this is a much smaller site where that, 'DCJS Instructor' title might be taken more seriously..... I also have some concerns about the pictures posted in the OP.....
PM me if you have questions. I am not bashing or thread hijacking.
Gentlemen I think what we have here is a failure to communicate !!
The one thing that I've noticed over the years from watching people who instruct and those being instructed as well as being on both ends of it is that while advanced instructors are good the truly great instructors keep in touch with the basics of whatever is being taught .
Often a problem is a simple loss of a basic principal of any skill .
G21's post was just that one designed to help a novice build a solid foundation of skills from which they can improve upon with perhaps the advanced skills a person with the credentials of Mr. Perroni may have .
Every skill has a starting place just as a building has a foundation without that solid foundation few will ever be able to reach or comprehend the finer more difficult advanced levels .
Mr. Perroni I think in years of working with those that have their basics down and are at or on the cusp of already being advanced shooters you have become accustom to thinking and speaking at the advanced levels and have forgotten how to teach at the most basic of levels .
After all the 6 o clock hold is the very first one a new shooter should master .
Hey, thanks for getting back with your specific objections! Sounds like you've already noticed that many of the instructors over at GT, full-time and otherwise, have been taking your posts with a, 'grain of salt'. As a favor to you I've already pointed out that much of what you write, too often, comes across as strongly self-serving.O.K. You asked .... 1. I could care less what people at Glock Talk or any other forum take seriously about what I post. If you have issue with what I post then you should speak up!
OK, fine, are you also the guy who trained that other famous government agent .... What's his name, again, Lee Paige? (Hard to believe that public tax dollars actually paid for that kind of crappy government firearms training, isn't it!) By the way, there isn't a certified NRA firearms instructor on the planet who would have made the series of dangerous and stupid mistakes that DEA agent made with a gun - Not one!2. I hope people take the DCJS Instructor seriously I earned it from the Virginia Dept of Criminal Justice Services I am not only an Instructor but an Instructor Trainer. I am also Maryland State Police Handgun Instructor Certified, NRA etc, etc.
Well, Tom, it took a lot of courage to write that! Of course they do! As a matter of fact I got them from another instructor over at GT who is presently retired from a long career as both a police armorer and trainer. Those sight pictures were good enough for him; and, they were also good enough for several people who have repeatedly posted them at GT - Where nobody else has ever objected to them. (Except, of course, you!)The pictures you post do not represent proper sight picture. In order to get accurate hits on target the shoot must use the TOP edge of the front sight and line it up exactly with the target. In the pictures that were posted the shooter would be shooting low.
Of course you hold this opinion. Your response is entirely predictable! Most of the internet gun jocks I've encountered don't like those charts. Kind 'a makes you wonder, 'Why' The Army Marksmanship Unit ever bothered to create them - Doesn't it!The handgun correction charts are in my opinion worthless.
OK, that's good! You did better on this one; and, you're more than half right, too. It's wonderful to see you acknowledge that grip is important. The last guy I got into an internet argument with on this subject was completely unwilling to admit that much. (Because he, obviously, didn't know!)There are three (3) things that matter for a shooter to get accurate hits on target.
2. Front Sight Picture
3. Trigger Control This is 75% of all shooters errors.
Here, I have to differ with you. Whether you consciously realize it or not, you do, 'play expert'. You had no real business jumping into a simple informational post like the one I wrote and making those, 'mysterious remarks'. Your reply remains as rude as it is provocative. That is a post which has, by the way, often been praised whenever I or someone else like me has chosen to present it in the past.Let’s get one more thing straight I don’t play expert. I work full time as a firearms instructor. Teaching for MVM OCONUS Ops. Blackwater USA. And I am the Training Director for Commonwealth Criminal Justice Academy. I very seldom teach civilians most of my work is Govt, Military and L.E. I don’t just teach on the weekends to make extra money.
A 100% chance! Wow, what can I say? Here, I'm clearly in over my head. Sure, I've had to face a few bad hombres in my time; but, gee, I've never had to actually train any of them. What's next? Are we supposed to exchange internet war stories, or something?Anyone can repost pictures of someone else’s work. I may be controversial but I have to be, you see when I train people to fight with a handgun they have a 100% chance of having to use it in a real world conflict. You have a standing invite to attend any training class I am teaching for FREE to see if I can walk the walk not just talk the talk.
Don't you worry about me. I ain't nobody; but, someone you chose to insult on the internet; and, common sense, would indicate that's the way we should keep it. In the future, if you stay away from my posts in the same way I've been staying away from yours, well then, we'll get along fine.Couple of questions for you:
Are you a full time Firearms Instructor?
If not what do you do for a living?
How many years have you been teaching?
What Certifications do you besides NRA?
Are you a IDPA or IPSIC ranked Shooter?
If so what ranking?
Yes, I knew that you would! It's just that I'm getting older; and, I'm really sick and tired of all this internet ego confrontation crap. Originally, I came onto this website because I hoped the manners might be better on a smaller firearms website; however, I'm quickly learning that people are people, and my time might be better spent attempting to teach others how to be more Christian rather than just better with a gun.P.S. Love your tag line at the bottom of your post!
The when I do...
Don't you worry about me. I ain't nobody; but, someone you chose to insult on the internet; and, common sense, would indicate that's the way we should keep it. In the future, if you stay away from my posts in the same way I've been staying away from yours, well then, we'll get along fine.
I have no problem with anyone questioning my teaching methods.....
I havent heard your teaching points just your lame attempt at insulting me..
SOOOOO...Again I will make you an offer or for that matter any of your students. If I can not make them a better shooter at the end of one day of training. They do not have to pay for the course.
I am not bashing you I just don't agree with everything you post.
OK, fine, are you also the guy who trained that other famous government agent .... What's his name, again, Lee Paige? (Hard to believe that public tax dollars actually paid for that kind of crappy government firearms training, isn't it!) By the way, there isn't a certified NRA firearms instructor on the planet who would have made the series of dangerous and stupid mistakes that DEA agent made with a gun - Not one!
Well let me help you out on this one I was told not only was he a former Tampa Bay BucK'S Football Player he was an NRA Instructor and He was not a FED (DEA) just on the task force.
ANY human can make a mistake even if they have a card in thier pocket that says NRA Instructor or not.
First, no two pistols will shoot quite the same way. So, before you make an irrevocable statement on, 'exactly' where the sights should be, the first thing you need to know is the gun you're using. (They don't all shoot to the same point-of-aim!)
Point of AIM is point of IMPACT on any firearm.
I'd like to know: Where are you getting that sight picture spiel from anyway? Forgive me for being so blunt; but, it's pure corn!
James Yeager, Iggy Piazza Front Sight, Jim Corillo, Masad Ayoob, Pat Goodale, John Farnham etc.etc.
If you really were an expert pistol instructor you'd already know that it takes well developed proprioceptive reflexes, fast hands, and a well conditioned recoil response in order to SETTLE THE FRONT SIGHT INTO THE REAR NOTCH before you take any rapid fire follow-up shot. (You know what I'm talking about .... the shots that better than 90% of pistol shooters always throw away!)
I let the Front Sight dictate the speed or rate of fire.
I would love for you to respond so we can discuss our diffrent view points.
I tell my students to take as much training as they can from as many instructors as they can. They need to put as many tools in thier tactical tool box as they can.
Baskin Robins has 31 flavors for a reason.
Offer still stand for the free training.....Maybe you can teach me a thing or two.....
Jeff Cooper never thought so; and, neither do I. This can be achieved with a rifle. (If you know how.) It's much harder to do with a handgun and fixed sights. Even an ammunition change can and often does move the POI on you; so will a really hot barrel - But, you should already know this, right?Point-of-aim is point-of-impact on any firearm.
Interesting! With the single exception of Jim Cirillo, and the possible exception of Pat Goodale whom I do not know, everyone of the names you've mentioned has taken more than his fair share of criticism on the internet. I've often spoken with two of these men, but never publicly argued with any of them. Know what? I intend to keep things that way!James Yeager, Iggy Piazza Front Sight, Jim Corillo, Masad Ayoob, Pat Goodale, John Farnham etc.etc.
No, Sir! No, Sir, you cannot! Put a man with that sort of attitude and a gun, together, in the same room and you're asking for something really bad to happen. Any mistake with a gun is completely unforgiving. The right attitude - the only right attitude - is that the first mistake you make with a gun might very well be your last - Period!ANY human can make a mistake even if they have a card in thier pocket that says NRA Instructor or not.
Good! That's absolutely correct. The rest is strictly a matter of how quickly, or how well, you've trained yourself to control the muzzle. I'm going to leave this discussion, here, and will not revisit it.I let the Front Sight dictate the speed or rate of fire.