Project Pistol: Lorcin L32 Cheapo

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by SGT-MILLER, Oct 22, 2009.

  1. SGT-MILLER

    SGT-MILLER New Member

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    For some reason my previous thread on this subject was deleted, and I'm not sure why.

    This is to replace that thread. Basically I purchased a used Lorcin L32 (.32 Automatic) for very little money. I decided that I'm going to see what I can do to try and help this little gun work more smoothly. This brand of firearm has has tons of problems and has a very bad reputation with the firearms community due to reliability problems and reports of either excessive jamming or possible kabooms.

    I already shot this gun once (100 rounds) and it functioned fine for 98 of those rounds. It was comfortable to hold and didn't recoil much (won't get much recoil out of a 32).

    Results will vary with these things as good quality control was never a strong point with any of the makers of these saturday night specials (Davis, Bryco, Jennings, Lorcin, etc...). There are some real lemons floating around that no amount of tinkering will help. The biggest thing is to check for good structural condition first if you ever want to purchase one of these types of firearms for whatever reason.

    This is a pic of where I'm at right now. I've done tons of polishing/smoothing around the barrel, magazine, firing pin channel, and around all of the contact surfaces between the slide and frame. The magazine had a surprising number of burrs that needed to be smoothed, and was extremely dirty. I also paid close attention to the fee ramp. I polished the feed ramp and removed all of the old paint that was on it. A painted feed ramp seems to be common on cheaper guns and I think that's one of the culprits of multiple jamming issues. Once I get a chance to get to the range again, I'll see if all of that made any difference.

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  2. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Active Member

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    I'll never understand why you go to all the trouble of doctoring those cheap junky guns. If a pistol don't function perfect out of box, something's wrong and is as far as the average shooter is going to get. The average buyer of 1 of these won't & can't do all that to ensure they'll shoot. That's why you're not representing them in the correct light of an out of box pistol. When people do range reports they don't go to all that trouble to make them shoot properly. If it malfunctions it's not to be trusted.
     

  3. SGT-MILLER

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    It's something I am having fun with right now.

    This is not a range report. I'm just sharing information regarding what I'm doing in my own personal time with this little junker of a pistol, that's all. You are looking for something in my posts that simply isn't there.
    I am not representing or mis-representing this pistol in any way. I am just stating what I am doing. Take that as you will.

    I'll say it again. I am not trying to show this little Lorcin as some uber wonder pistol. I am just sharing information on what I'm doing to this little gun to fluff and buff it out a little. I like to tinker with some things and it's easy to tinker aournd with cheap firearms because if I mess up then the loss is very small.

    This is the last post from me that will address this particular subject. I have stated the same on the other Lorcin thread that was deleted for whatever reason.
     
  4. Rex in OTZ

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    I'm Interested in what you have to say

    I'd like to hear what you did to get the Lorcin to feed.

    I have a L25 that could use some attention


    I did see your post last night and replied to it and today it was gone.
     
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  5. Highpower

    Highpower New Member

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    Fluff and buff? I'm seeing a lot of sharp edges on that gun.... :confused:
     
  6. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper New Member

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    Think he means internal fluff and buff.
    Ive been enjoying your threads SGT. I enjoy tinkering and trying to make lemonade out of lemons.
    If you enjoy working on cheap firearms, trying to get the most out of 'em, by all means continue to do so, and I'll continue reading[​IMG]
     
  7. Gojubrian

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    Don't know why your thread was deleted? :confused:

    Nothing wrong with taking an el cheapo gun and trying to work it into atleast something moderately functional. Have fun while doing it!

    I wouldn't want to put the time or energy into one myself, nor would I want to give something like that my precious ammo I could shoot from one of my better guns.

    Might want to put a disclaimer in these type threads for newbies reading.

    :)
     
  8. SGT-MILLER

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    I went ahead and used some flat black utility spray paint (real sandpapery feel) on the grips of the Lorcin. The regular plastic feel was too smooth and slippery, and I prefer more of a rough grip texture on my pistols. Didn't really change the function any, but it gives me a better grip.

    I'm trying to find some cheap skateboard-type grip tape, because the slide tends to slip in my hands whenever I slingshot it when empty. When I get done, this will probably be the ugliest Lorcin on the planet, but hopefully it'll run slightly better than a standard jam-o-matic Lorcin.

    I cleaned out the barrel (rifling). I found my old bore cleaner, and decided to give the barrel a deep clean. It's amazing how much more crud I was able to get out of the barrel. The tolerances between bullet/barrel are pretty loose, so the barrel gets pretty fouled up real easy.
     
  9. NGIB

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    As I said in the other one, a LARGE caveat or disclaimer needs to be included with this thread. A noob reading this sees an SM with over 2000 posts tweaking a Lorcin...
     
  10. Benning Boy

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    I'm kinda torn here.

    I had a Davis .380 that ran fine, never a jam, kept it clean. I had to replace a firing pin, that was the extent of my problems.

    Till it blew up. the slide snapped in two, I got lucky in that everything stayed on the frame. Barely.

    So what I took from this was

    1) Probably not designed for a high volume of range time.

    2) The materials used, pot metal, pig iron, zinc alloy, whatever we call it, aren't really trustworthy. I think the quality varies from batch to batch.

    3) If I had to use it for SD, odds are good that it would be held for evidence. I wouldn't feel too badly about my $90 pistol being out of reach for some length of time.

    I think since this project is in the spirit of seeing how far he can go with this little turd of a gun, and since he makes no claims about turning it into his first line of defense, it might be interesting.

    Noobs, don't make this your first purchase. Sgt has been around guns, and what he's attempting is not entry level stuff, he has experience. I've learned a thing or two from him.
     
  11. cpttango30

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    I agree with NGIB you need to edit your orginal post and add a big azz red disclaimer.
     
  12. SGT-MILLER

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    I plan on taking some more pictures tonight because I would like to highlight some places that need extra attention when being cleaned. The firing system on this pistol is the same as you would find on other Saturday Night Special pistols (i.e. Davis, Jennings, Bryco, Cobra Arms, Pheonix Arms, etc....).

    You will also find this firing system on all Hi-Point pistols with just a few minor differences.

    Here's some areas to pay attention to:

    1. Feed ramp. Make sure the feed ramp is smooth and very clean.

    2. Extractor. This part is a weak link on most of these pistols. Make sure it's serviceable and very clean at all times. Gunk tends to build up very quickly on the extractors of these style pistols for some reason.

    3. Firing Pin Channel. This is a crucial spot to clean. If this spot isn't kept clean, it could get overly gunky, which could cause the firing pin retainer to catch when the slide is coming back into battery during the firing cycle. This can cause the slide to come off during it's movement will cause damage to the gun. This is something to pay attention to because this a is a flaw on the design. This can be a potantially dangerous flaw also. This flaw was fixed by Hi-Point by using the much hated roll pin to hold the firing pin retainer in place.

    Here's a video of a slide coming off a Jennings J22 (I think it was staged but it's a good example of what will happen when the retainer gets stuck).

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0piru7MK_lA"]YouTube - Jennings J-22 pistol collapse[/ame]


    4. Magazine. Another weak link on these pistols. Magazines get dirty easily, and the magazines on these types of pistols are very thin, low quality, and finicky in operation.
     
  13. WDB

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    Sgt, I expect FTF sent you a reason for deleting your former thread and instead from learning from it you just started a new thread. Several members have expressed concerns above and you blew right past them to continue your rambling that you can make this piece of crap a reasonable firearm for any use:confused:

    Spray paint it, add "same cheap skateboard grip tape":eek: Honestly what are you thinking? Imagine a single Noob reading your thead and believing this firearm is a reasonable PD/HD firearm? That is the intent of your thread to prove this piece of junk is a reasonable firearm and I fully believe that you will shade the truth to try and make your point. You are mis-representing this firearm and providing a dis-service to ANYONE looking to purchase there first HD/PD pistol

    Enough! Close this thead on your own and keep respect.
     
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  14. SGT-MILLER

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    No reason for deletion was sent to me from the mods/admin.

    WDB, you are twisting my thread around to something it is not. I have stated multiple times the purpose of this thread. I have also stated multiple times in the previous thread my intentions. If you read my posts in this thread, you can plainly see my intentions behind them. I have not said anything that will mis lead any member/guest viewing my thread. This is just a fun little project for me, nothing more. It's something for me to do in my free time.

    WDB, I am getting tired of hearing your claimless accusations, you are way off the mark, and you are now on my ignore list. I will not address any further posts from you.
     
  15. SGT-MILLER

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    For others wondering, my main two personal defensive sidearms are my Springfield Armory XD9 with a TLR-1 Streamlight Tactical Light, and my Ruger P95.

    Both weapons are loaded up with good defensive loads, and as backups I have my Hi-Point C9 and my CZ52 with full magazines at the ready.

    I will not make any misconceptions on this forum. I do not believe this Lorcin will be a dependable weapon for self defense. If you have the money to buy a lorcin, save a couple more dollars and get a Hi-Point instead (or get a nice milsurp pistol/revolver).

    With that said, it is my hopes that this thread will help those that own either a Lorcin or a pistol like the Lorcin. It's never fun owning a pistol that doesn't work, and if doing some simple things can help make it work at least a little better then it's worth sharing.
     
  16. WDB

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    Maybe you should post this in the gunsmith thread if that is your intent. Plug your ears Brother if logic bothers you, but others members can still read my post for what they are.
     
  17. suprdave

    suprdave New Member

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    Damn guys. The man is trying to fix up a junker. Plain and simple. Several of you fix old cars. Do people crucify you for fixing up an old rust bucket? No. A few of you need to change your tampons...
     
  18. SGT-MILLER

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    I'll clarify what I mean by using skateboard-type grip tape for the Lorcin. It's not specifically made for skateboards, but I don't have the specific name for it.

    Here's a picture of some of it on a Glock. It's a common thing to see Glocks and some XDs with this kind of stuff on the grip and sometimes on the slide. My goal is to get some put on the slide of my Lorcin so I can rack it without any slippage.

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  19. Benning Boy

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    Isn't there a spray that accomplishes that? The name eludes me.:confused:
     
  20. SGT-MILLER

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    I've heard of the spray, but I haven't even put much thought into it. I don't know the specific name either.