Problems with Taurus Model 85 .38 Special Ultralite

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by sixboots, Apr 12, 2012.

  1. sixboots

    sixboots New Member

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    Hello. I just bought my first handgun in over 20 years. I was in the Army and have plenty of experience with military rifles, but have only shot a .22 and .45. I recently bought a Taurus .38 Special (Ultralite). I've run into a couple of problems.

    1. The trigger is a monster. I'm assuming that it's for a purpose (shouldn't be so easy being a 2" barrel). But it's not consistent through the pull like I think it should be.

    2. Within the first 30 rounds, I experienced what I thought (and still think, to some degree) were FTFs. While pulling the trigger slowly, it will get to the point where you get one last 'click' before it drops the hammer, and it will stop. I can let off the trigger, and pull again, and it will fire. Today, I decided to get the gun to repeat this while dry firing, and it did. After further testing, I found out that if I squeezed much harder it would go ahead and fire. So, it didn't actually get stuck, but got in a spot where it required me to almost have to use both hands to get it to drop the hammer.

    Any ideas on this?

    Also, about the trigger (problem #1), I called a gunsmith in my area, and he wanted $150 to change the springs. I'm not really into sinking $150 into a $330 gun, only days after I bought it. If I wanted to do that, I'd have bought a more expensive gun.

    Is changing the springs a difficult process? I have no experience breaking down anything other than an M-16 and M249 SAW. Is that a high price to change the springs?

    Thanks in advance. Glad I found this community.
     
  2. HOSSFLY

    HOSSFLY New Member

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    Well 1st let me say i'm NOT Taurus basher! I've owned well over 2 dozen & like them & its cousin Rossi :)
    BUT, I bought one mdl 85 liteweight & it was a POS from the getgo :(
    Mine did not "go ahead & fire" that puppy froze up!
    I took it back & traded for i don't even remember----
    Back to the question tho- Changing MOST of the springs is not a big deal but if you're not familiar with DA guns you might want to seek help--
     

  3. sixboots

    sixboots New Member

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    Forgive my ignorance... I'm learning all of the acronyms. What does DA stand for?

    And, I salute your signature. I was in the 25th ID (Army), but spent 28 great days in the Philippines alongside the Marines over there.
     
  4. HOSSFLY

    HOSSFLY New Member

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    SEMPER FI

    DA is double action - its surprizing how many moving parts are in one :eek:
     
  5. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    DA stands for Double Action. With a revolver, means you can pull trigger without cocking hammer, and hammer will rise and fall.

    Bro, before you start swapping parts, hoping that the Goddess of firearms will look upon you with favor and you will find the problem before you run out of money- problem may not be the springs- either return it to the maker, or find a good pistolsmith.

    Me- would be returning to maker.
     
  6. sixboots

    sixboots New Member

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    Thanks guys. One more thing. I didn't expect it to have as good of accuracy as a 9mm I shot (4in barrel), but the first 5 rounds... I didn't hit the target at about 15-20 feet (DA). With SA, my shot grouping was about 6 inches high and 4 inches to the left. With the 9mm, I was all around the bullseye, within an area about the size of a cantaloupe, so I don't think it's my aim. This gun has fixed sights, of course, so I understand that I may have to adjust my aim somewhat, but that much?
     
  7. HOSSFLY

    HOSSFLY New Member

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    That my friend- Will just take shooting it :)
    Also (no offence) let someone else shoot it- see how it compares :cool:
     
  8. sixboots

    sixboots New Member

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    Update: Upon breaking down the cylinder, I found that Taurus had packed it plum full of oil. After cleaning it out, not only did it fire about 80 rounds without issues, but the trigger, although still stout, became much smoother as well.

    Not only that, but it actually does shoot as straight as anything. Just had to get used to firing such a small gun.
     
  9. HOSSFLY

    HOSSFLY New Member

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    Gud news all around :cool:
     
  10. 7point62

    7point62 Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Good to know because I bought my first Taurus wheelgun a few weeks ago, a model 65 .357 4" and haven't had time to shoot it yet.
     
  11. wjnfirearms

    wjnfirearms New Member

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    I bought the wife one of these. It shot just find right from the get go. No FTFs or anything. She has a bit of arthritis and had no issue with the trigger at all.

    I'm glad your's was just a minor issue.
     
  12. AIKIJUTSU

    AIKIJUTSU New Member

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    I have a bunch of Taurus guns, semiauto and revolvers. I am happy with all of them. One thing I've found, though, is that sometimes their assembly process quality control has problems. Maybe they are pressured to hurry instead of making sure everything is good. two of the semiauto's had problems at first with the magazine releases letting the magazines drop down a quarter inch or so, resulting in FTF's. I simply reseated the magazine releases, and have had no further trouble with them in 7 years for one, 16 years for the other. The revolvers have been perfectly OK except for one, that at first had the trouble of getting stuck during a double-action trigger pull. I made sure it was unloaded, then pulled the trigger as fast as I could over a hundred times. Then loaded it and it fired perfectly OK. It may have had a burr in the action somewhere, but whatever it was, it cleared up and has been OK since.
     
  13. Overkill0084

    Overkill0084 Active Member

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    I bought one for the wife a few years ago. Got it home and immediately had to pull the side plate off to clean the bead blast media out of it. The DA trigger seems heavier than necessary, but it's fairly smooth without the blast media. The single action trigger is actually pretty decent. IIRC, it shot decently and near point of aim. It had to be close, if it was way off, I would have remembered.
    For the money, it isn't bad, it's just not particularly good either. In hindsight, I wish I'd have spent the extra $100 and bought a S&W.
     
  14. GearJamminHank

    GearJamminHank New Member

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    Hey Sixboots,
    New to the forum myself and also recently aquired a Taurus Model 85. Also I too do not like the monster trigger and my wife can't even begin to use it with out two fingers. So I went on a search and it lead me to this site www.Gunsprings.com (the link goes directly to the parts for this gun) where I will not have to spend $150.00 to fix this issue:D:D:D. The shooter spring pack is $8.00 :eek::eek::eek: I believe it will replace the trigger and hammer spring.



    And if you'll watch [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF24mnviE8A"]THIS[/ame] youtube video, between it and the comments, you may be able to figure this out yourself. The guy in this video (I know he's not a professional but...) has stated the "spring job" worked like a charm.