Private sale/buying, how to do it safely?

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by Poink88, Feb 23, 2011.

  1. Poink88

    Poink88 New Member

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    I responded to a for sale ad (in another forum) and aside from meeting in a neutral location and having a bill of sale (checking the ID of the seller), what else should I do?

    How do I go about checking the gun?

    BTW, I am in Austin and the sale is in Houston and most likely a cash transaction.

    Any suggestions will be much appreciated. Thanks!
     
  2. Poink88

    Poink88 New Member

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    Bump.

    Nothing? Please help guys. :D
     

  3. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Hey- some of us have to work for a living (whenever the boss gets behind us)

    As far as procedure- think you have it covered. Know who you buy from (in case it turns out it won't his'n to sell). That means if you don't know him, ask for ID. He should ask for yours- or you should offer it.

    As far as checking the gun, pick the back parking lot at mini-mart in Houston, fire off a couple of rounds- will never be noticed in the other gunfire. :)p YES I am kidding!)

    Only thing you CAN do is a visual, bore, action, stock, finish. Would ask for right of return if non-working. Some may suggest running it thru a dealer- if you are so uncomfortable with the deal to need that, would pass on the deal.
     
  4. IGETEVEN

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    Dammit C3, ya beat me to it while writing this! :p What he said! :cool:

    Well, after sniffing each others ***'s and getting the proper ID requirements and state law requirements out of the way, as you mentioned in your post, the rest is checking the firearm out yourself, it's overall condition, finish, bore-light to bore and barrel, feeding of rounds, snap-caps, and all parts of the firearm functions correctly, from slide to mag release. Suppose you could play it safe, and you could either meet up where a gunsmith resides, other than that, it is pretty much left up to your expertise. :cool:
     
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  5. NGIB

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    Geez, I reckon I should respond to this as I deal more guns than a pawn shop.

    1. Know the laws in your state
    2. Follow the laws to the letter
    3. Meet in a public place, preferably during the day
    4. Always go armed (if you can)
    5. Know what you're buying (know what to look for on that particular gun)
    6. Walk away if it doesn't feel right

    Here in GA, legal residents can buy, sell, or trade any guns with no paperwork required at all. All that's necessary for the seller is to "reasonably know" that the buyer is qualified - be a GA resident and not be a felon. If a felon says they are not - you've satisfied the law. Many private parties will only deal with a permit holder as this is a very safe way to conduct business. Some folks like to get or receive a bill of sale - some don't.

    (BTW, internet connectivity at the office is TERRIBLE today)
     
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  6. Poink88

    Poink88 New Member

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    C3,

    Planning on meeting the guy this weekend and want to make sure I psych myself properly and not get tunnel visioned (over excited) to get the gun as fast as I can. (I know that is what most likely will happen if my wife is not present).

    ID swap will be necessary since MY pre-printed bill of sale requires drivers license number. ;)

    The pistol (Sig P220) is supposed to be like new condition w/ less than 500 rounds through it. Is it not rude to ask if I can disassemble the gun to check?

    Thanks.
     
  7. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    If I'm dealing with someone I don't know - you damn betcha I tear the gun down and inspect it. Things to look for on Sigs (I'm assuming alloy frame) - look closely at the frame rails. With 500 rounds or less shot - they should look like new. The "smiley" on the upper end of the barrel near the muzzle should be very light. Remember, classic Sigs are a steel slide running on alloy frame rails so if it looks shaky - it probably is.

    Also be sure to test the decocker and also check out the little spring that holds the hammer away from the firing pin. To check this spring, cock the gun, pull the trigger, and check to see you can push the hammer into the firing pin from the rest position and that the spring pushes it back to the rest position. These springs are cheap, but they are a pain to change and it's a symptom of a gun that may not have been well maintained...
     
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    whistlindixie New Member

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    Researching plane tickets, home prices and job market. KALIFORNIA is at the *** end of logic.
     
  9. NGIB

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    A special note about Sigs:

    Sig sells CPO (certified pre-owned) guns and they come in red boxes. If the Sig you're buying does not come in a factory blue (or black or gray) box with the serial # on it - assume you're getting a CPO gun. This is very important should you ever wish to sell or trade the gun. A CPO is worth a third less (roughly) than a "blue box" Sig. These CPO guns are great values as the factory goes through them and they are tuned & certified - the value is just lower...
     
  10. Poink88

    Poink88 New Member

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    Thanks. It (Sig P220 DAK bi-tone) comes in blue case.

    I am aware of the red case (CPO) but did not know the value goes down that much in resale. I appreciate all the tips. :cool:

    One thing I noticed from the pic...it has a beaver tail, is that normal? I haven't seen one before.
     
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  11. notdku

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    Neutral location? Are you familiar with the area you are going to?
     
  12. Poink88

    Poink88 New Member

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    Honestly, no. Anyone know a good place to do the transaction/sale in Houston, TX?

    I guess my idea of neutral is something other than the sellers house. We have some friends around the area whom I will consult to give us ideas.

    Since we've never really been to Houston on leisure, we are planning on taking the opportunity to make it a fun trip with the family and visit friends and see some attractions.
     
  13. Poink88

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    Seller stopped communication (thread post, email, PM) so I guess the deal is off. :(

    It is fine if he changed his mind (or sold it to somebody else)...I just wish he would say it/inform me and not just go off line. sigh.
     
  14. skullcrusher

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    Could be a sign that the deal was not right or the seller is not right. Why else would the seller just stop communicating?
     
  15. Sniper03

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    I would also add the following to your bill of sale he has to sign. Make two copies. Give him the carbon copy.
    I would along with his Drivers License Number Get his full Name the Date of Birth and Vehicle Tag Number! If he bulks "RUN" There is a Rat in the Wood Pile. It would be nice if he has a Personal Protection Permit. Then is Drivers License would probably in most cases be sufficient. It would be bad to wind up with a stolen gun and not be able to trace it back. Not to mention having the pistol confiscated and loose all your money.
    I am always very cautious when buying from anyone you do not know! The word is CYA!

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  16. Poink88

    Poink88 New Member

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    He got back in touch and we will meet in Houston this weekend. Gave me his cell phone number as well as tons of pictures of the gun stripped.

    Thanks guys!