Private- 18yo, FFL - 21yo, what's the point??

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by 4drviper, Oct 11, 2011.

  1. 4drviper

    4drviper New Member

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    Helllo yall

    I'm resident of south carolina and have been recently looking to purchase a handgun for target shooting purpose.

    The range I go to also has FFL so I asked them if I can buy one, but they told me I have to be over 21 to purchase one from a FFL.

    BUT, I've seen friends having guns so I called SC Law Enforcement to make sure, and the lady confirmed that

    18yo - purchase rifle/shotgun etc. big guns from FFL
    - purchase handgun privately

    21yo - purchase handgun from FFL.

    then... What's the point of keeping handguns being sold from FFL to semi-minor(18-20yo)s???

    I think it'd be easier to keep track of guns sold through FFL than private seller:confused:

    i'm just asking opinions. I already have answers to my legal questions as stated above.
     
  2. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    If that is in fact the case in SC then I would say it's some legal BS. Here in NC the whole reason we have pistol permits is because back during the civil rights movement they wanted to keep pistols out of the hands of blacks so they gave each county sherriff the authority to decide who can/can't buy a pistol.
     

  3. shadamai

    shadamai New Member

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    I found this article online and thought it was interesting:

    New S.C. Handgun Purchasing Law Drops Minimum Age To 18 - CBS News

    If the article is correct, then this is a federal vs. state law issue. FFLs are subject to federal laws which state they cannot sell handguns to those under 21, even though your state allows private sales to 18+.
     
  4. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    So you are old enough to join the military and fight for your country but you are not old enough to buy a firearm.:confused:
     
  5. Lindenwood

    Lindenwood New Member

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    Yeah, it's definitely silly.


    I bought my first handgun at age 20 through a private sale.
     
  6. shadamai

    shadamai New Member

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    Oh, and for the record, I wasn't defending the rules...just clarifying what was going on. I thought it sounded strange myself and that is why I looked it up.
     
  7. trip286

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    It's like that here in MS.
    18 for a long gun at a dealer. 21 for handgun at a dealer.
    21 to get a concealed carry permit
    18 to buy a handgun from a private sale, seller cannot knowingly sell to someone who is intoxicated or under the age of 18
    18 and older to keep a handgun in your vehicle, concealed or not concealed, loaded or unloaded, it doesn't matter. We have the "vehicle is extension of owners home/property" law. Regardless of permit status.

    I think it's silly too. This just doesn't make sense. You can be 18 and die for your country, but you cant drink a beer or buy a handgun. They need to put these issues on the same levels. Either raise the voting and enlistment ages to match handguns and beer; lower the handguns and beer ages to match the voting and enlistment ages, or make exceptions for registered voters OR (if that's too lenient) servicemembers who are under 21.
     
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  8. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    I know the OP wasn't really about the service, but it's something that's burned my A$$ ever since I joined the Marines and realized I was allowed to die for the same country that says I couldn't go to a bar and drink a beer.
     
  9. wb_carpenter

    wb_carpenter New Member

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    Federal handgun = 21

    Your state = 18

    because FFL have to abide by federal regs you have to buy privately ftf.

    CCW is regulated by states and usually is 21.
     
  10. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    That is a reasonable explanation. It's still kind of silly though.
     
  11. nightstalkersDQ

    nightstalkersDQ New Member

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    In texas you can get your conceled handgun license at 18+ if your in the military, and once i got my CHL i could shoot handguns at my gun range...ive never bought firearms since i recieved a few in an inheritance but i dont see why i couldn't :confused:
     
  12. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    That's how it should be everywhere in my opinion. Really I think a military ID should just automatically count as a Permit.
     
  13. wb_carpenter

    wb_carpenter New Member

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    Silly for sure.

    I wouldn't hesitate to sell to someone 18-21 its not position to institute regs above what the state requires so I can get a feel good feeling inside... I am not kalifornia after all.
     
  14. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Dear Trip: No, silly is when I enlisted at 17, was an officer at 19, at 20 I was a company commander- and could not buy a box of .45 ammo.

    THAT was silly. :p

    And as the folks have said, A FFL is a FEDERAL Firearms License, and dealer is bound by Federal law- Title 18 US Code, section 922.
     
  15. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Was that because of where you lived? I've been buying my own ammo (.22 and 12 gauge) since I was about 12.
     
  16. c3shooter

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    Trip- FEDERAL law says you cannot sell HANDGUN ammo to a person under 21. RIFLE or SHOTGUN ammo at 18. A round that can be used in short gun OR long gun (like the .22) can be sold at 18 if seller does not have cause to believe it is for handgun.

    Don't ask me to explain WHY the law is written that way. It is because a doofus politician wrote it that way. (Back in the day, I was buying 22 and 410 at the local store at age 10)
     
  17. trip286

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    maybe it's just the backwoods town I was brought up in then. I was driving to the store, picking up the groceries, my .22 and 12 ammo, and smokes for my mom when I was 12. She worked nights, and the whole town shut down on the weekend, so it was the only way to get food and smokes in the house.
     
  18. 4drviper

    4drviper New Member

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    "legal BS" :D

    yes it is indeed correct (at least with the SLED officer in CWP department that I spoke with)
    [and any SC residents under 21, you are responsible for checking the law yourself, it changes every so often so I deny any legal responsiblity of this post]

    :confused: true.


    So did I! (I'm 20 now) :cool: now I can save coulple bucks every 30min at the range.
    and feel safe at home.


    agree that "match these issues to same level"


    yup. i've checked with various officers and FFL dealers.


    that's a good idea. since military ID takes clean background and blah blah.

    kali~~~ lol that state is so strict about everything

    C3, that is REALLY silly :p

    and yes i've obtained a handgun from FTF sale.

    "doofus politician" :D

    lol "back in the day"... sometimes I would prefer a 426 hemi or,, buick 454 with crappy MPG rather than all nice and smooth, 6.4 HEMI,,..
    (i'm just saying it cz i like both mopar and GM)

    I'm only 20 but I can't stop fantasizing about the 60's.
     
  19. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    SOME of us go back a good bit before the 60s! :p

    And LONG before the Hemi!
     
  20. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Guys... I'm only 27. Just turned 27 a few weeks ago. So I'm talking about the mid 90's.

    I think it's just the fact that my town was so backwater. Ackerman, Mathiston and Sturgis MS are my old stomping grounds. See if you can find them on a map, They're near Starkville and MSU.