Primer Shortage ?

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by BILLYBOB44, Mar 6, 2009.

  1. BILLYBOB44

    BILLYBOB44 New Member

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    As noted on some previous post, the supply of primers is drying up at most of the major places-Midway,MidSouth,GanderMtn. etc. They seem readily available on GunBroker, at doubled prices. Gone the way as ammo has!:eek::mad:
     
  2. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    There are some greedy, price gouging, hoarding bastages out there. I generally keep an extra 1000 of each of the 4 basic primers on hand. I just ran out of rifle primers but found a brick of Large rifle.

    No one should be allowed to "stock up" except me.
     

  3. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    I grabbed an extra 1000 of all the ones I use late last year which put me close to 2000 of each so I'm in good shape. I have noticed the price going up though.
     
  4. hunter Joe

    hunter Joe New Member

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    I was at a gun show near Milwaukee today and never have seen so many people. I found a brick of Fed. small pistol for just under $40.00, I had to pass. I prefer Win primers but going to try Mag Tech which are going for around $32.00 a 1000s.

    Prices are up $300.00 to $500.00 across the board on black guns and they were selling reloaded ammunition at a fevered pitch. I think it only going to get worse. Good luck my brothers.
     
  5. SlamFire

    SlamFire New Member

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    Hoarding is happening. Primers are hard to find for rifle now, but also bullets, brass and even dies in 5.56 and 308 Win.
     
  6. mrm14

    mrm14 Active Member

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    Amen to that! Cant find the primers I like to use and even .300 Win. Mag brass for me. Real frustrating!
     
  7. 45Fan

    45Fan New Member

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    Hoarders beware

    I tried everywhere in my local area and there are almost no primers available even at the largest retailers. Of course I'm preaching to the choir.
    I keep a thousand primers of each type I reload.
    When the supply dried up we started blaming the Govt, then shooters who were hoarding. But have you looked at GunBroker.com lately? There is no shortage of primers from 496 sellers who are selling at 3 to 4 times the retail price. That is where the hoarding starts. They have created this situation by buying up tons of primers at a fair price and are flipping them at a huge profit.
    I recommend checking as many of those sellers as possible and sending an email telling them how you will remember this when times are better.
    I support my local gun store and retailers who try to provide me with the components I need for my sport. The Gougers who are taking advantage of the situation, and possibly created it, should pay for this. We deserve better.

    "No thing of importance will come without effort".
    D. Wesson 1849
     
  8. tiberius10721

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    I have a feeling that with the shrinking budgets of law enforcement agencies that this primer shortage will end. The government and law enfocement agencies have been buying up all the ammo. This shortage will not last forever.
     
  9. Big Sky Ranger

    Big Sky Ranger New Member

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    Hoarding?

    Just who the heck is hoarding? If the suppliers can't get product to sell it's not because of hoarders, unless it's the Feds (the ultimate hoarder) who are soaking up the supply.
    I think 'hoarders' are a bogus bogyman.
     
  10. tiberius10721

    tiberius10721 New Member

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    I think your right hoarders are a bogus bogyman because there hasnt been anything to hoard in almost a year. I think military and lawenforcement is buying it all up!
     
  11. fprefect

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    I think we are probably nearing the end for a number of reasons. When there is money to be made, as is the case now in primers in particular, we are going to see manufacturers Worldwide ramping up production in order to get their fair share of the windfall profits. It may take a couple of months, but I suspect we will soon be seeing primers manufactured anywhere from China to Australia hitting the shelfs of our local suppliers.

    Prices are likely to be high, but only at first, and quality will probably be an issue in some cases but it's something we may have to live with for a while. I may try a few Chinese primers, but in the case of powder, I'm going to wait unless I'm sure the quality and burn characteristics are very similar to powders made in the US.

    Also, I think we will soon see the time when the "hoarders" realize just how much money they have "tied up" in primers and other components and many may feel the need to unload a few (particularly if they can at a profit) to meet some expenses unrelated to ammo hoarding such as making their car and mortgage payments and still have enough money left for groceries.

    Although our current economic problems are real, IMO the chances of it producing some type of complete socioeconomic collapse are far less than a few of these hoarders seem to believe. Supply and Demand works, and although it may in some cases take a period of time for the supply to catch up, if there are profits to be made, the supply will soon be arriving.

    F. Prefect
     
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  12. DKA

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    The supply of primers around me seems to be increasing ever so slowly. Think that we have seen the worse part, now for the recovery.
     
  13. BILLYBOB44

    BILLYBOB44 New Member

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    Now for the Recovery?

    Yes DKA, let's move to recovery. When we move toward that direction, remember the dealers that tried to stay fair on their pricing during our time of need! :D On the flip side, also remember the ones that tried to "stick it to us" when they could get away with it!!:(
     
  14. Gatekeeper

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    ^^^^^^ +2 to that. Most of the shops round here have been reasonable with prices and been limiting primers to anywhere from 200-500 per week/customer. No problem with that give everyone a shot at getting some and keep the gougers from hoarding.
    Been seeing more deliveries being filled lately. Supply must be going up. Small rifle had been the hardest to find in these parts.
     
  15. WILDCATT

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    I have it all

    there is no conspericy.primers are in short supply because its going in to factory ammo.who says there are no hoarders.go to other sites and see the pictures of pallets of ammo.also its being shot up.some go out and shoot 500 at a sitting.
    how are the companies going to increas production when they have 3 shifts 24/7.and dont say get more machines thats a custom made item.and take many months to produce.if any of you had aglimmer of machine work you would not make stupid remarks.it degrades all of us.primers are one of the hardest to make as they are not completly machine made it takes alot of very carfull hand work.
    privi Partizian just had an explosion at their plant and 9 people died.so their out for a while.
     
  16. fprefect

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    Domestic production is probably close to running 24/7 and will continue to rake in the windfall profits until this fraction of 1% of all shooter who seem to believe they will not sleep well at night without 50,000 primers of all sizes are stacked in neat rows in their basements realize they have more money tied up in reloading supples that they have in their home, and finally reach a point where small bits of sanity begin to sink in. In the meantime I would suspect we will soon begin to see primers made in other countries make their way onto our shelves. Primers made in China. Oh well, it seems practically everything else is now days.

    F. Prefect
     
  17. BILLYBOB44

    BILLYBOB44 New Member

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    Made in China??

    Those "Made in China" primers will NEVER be on my bench!:mad: (If I don't HAVE to)
     
  18. fprefect

    fprefect New Member

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    I hear ya! But the quality a lot of the junk coming out of China has improved considerably in the past 10 years or so. I can remember when I was a kid, "Made in Japan" was synonymous with crap, now it's the best you can buy.

    If I have to I might try some foreign primers if I can showhow find if they are non-corrosive, but powder and bullets?, I think I'll pass for the time being.

    F. Prefect
     
  19. fprefect

    fprefect New Member

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    I'm actually seeing just the opposite. Sure, their are some crooks out there such as a guy trying to tell me that Obama has appointed some kind of gun czar and no reloading components will be available after this year and strongly urging me to buy them (yes, they had most sizes in stock) for $50.00/1000.

    At the same time a local range and retailer had many sizes in stock for $27.95/1000 or 3.19/tray for local shooters only. With all the money that can be made manufacturing primers at these prices, we'll probably be floating in the darn things 6 months from now.

    F. Prefect
     
  20. BILLYBOB44

    BILLYBOB44 New Member

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    Times Change?

    Prefect, you may be seeing a change now=check the date the thread was started=3/6/09==we hope things are getting better??:confused: