Pretty new to guns...

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by SteelDirigible, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. SteelDirigible

    SteelDirigible New Member

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    Kinda getting the gun bug, still a lot to learn but i'd like to get a conceal/carry license (just turned 21) and pretty decent handgun. Still open to my options, but I just want to throw out a few I've been looking at

    -Ruger LCP 380
    -Glock 19
    -Ruger LC9
    -S&W SD9 or SD40

    I guess what I'm getting at is I can live with a price range up to $500 or so just to start out. I've shot some before, not a handgun though.

    I guess of the ones mentioned, would any be better than another for someone starting out? I know this is all pretty basic but what kind of things should I be looking for?

    I kind of think I won't start carrying all the time, just be nice to kind of have to shoot for fun or maybe carry in certain situations. So what would be best for me? Would I be best off just going to a gun shop/range local and trying some different guns out, is it really a lot of personal preference?

    Anyway, hopefully I'll start learning pretty quick because I know these newbie forums posts can get annoying after a while. Just want to get something I'll be happy with the first time.
     
  2. tCan

    tCan Active Member

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    So you're looking at the striker fired "compact" size ones then? The Ruger SR9c might be another option to consider. It's quite affordable.

    You probably want to go rent a handgun once or twice to see if you even like it. Shooting a handgun is a whole different animal from rifles and shotguns. If all you're interested in is target shooting, you may want to pick up a .22 cal. If you intend to use it in a defense role, as it sounds like you might, or just like the *bang* factor, 9mm recoils pretty mildly but tends to remain pretty effective as long as you score good hits. A good starting caliber. But like I said, trying some different rentals and calibers out at the range before you buy might be wise. I've found that pistols are much more about shooter/gun synergy than rifles. Knowing what you want in a pistol is going to be far more important than anything we can tell you here. Even just handling some in the gun shop can help, and that's free.
     
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  3. Alpha1Victor

    Alpha1Victor New Member

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    I agree that your should go to your local gun range and rent a few that you mentioned. Once you find the gun you like the problem becomes finding a holster you like. BUT! I am a firm believer of carry all the time. Whats the point of only sometimes?

    Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

    Signing out, Alpha1victor.
     
  4. Alchemist

    Alchemist New Member

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    From the ones you've listed, if I was starting out, I'd go for the LC9 because, to me, it's the perfect size for carry... not too big, not too small... and is quite nice at the range too. I love the single-stack 9's... I carry a Kahr CW9 more than anything else 'cause it's so handy... pefect fit for me... and has proven 100% reliable. The LC9 is very very similar to it... pricewise too... and the majority of owners I've read on the net are happy with them so I support that choice. (But you might want to look at a CW9 too... The main difference with the Kahr CW9 is... it has no safety... which I prefer.)
     
  5. hardluk1

    hardluk1 Active Member

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    You can get in to a new kahr cw9 sized pistol that also works very well for CC but if larger pistols are on your list for range use add a springfeild xd compact to the list. It does come with an extended mag that offers high cap and more room for your small finger and that means better control.
    I love the smaller 9mm like kahr cw and cm9 has and even the KT pf-9 just not sure for a new shooter that they would not be the bast to fire many rounds accuratly and they can turn off some shooter do to recoil.
     
  6. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    -Ruger LCP 380 - Very small and easily concealed. You'll always have it with you, but you might second guess only having 6rds of .380 to defend your life.
    I have one, but it's main purpose is a BUG (back up gun)

    -Glock 19- solid performer and not too hard to conceal either. Some people don't like the grip, but if you shoot it enough you'll get use to it. It will fire and holds plenty of firepower for self defense.

    -Ruger LC9- Had two firneds that had one of these. They had function problems so I'm not going to invest in one myself. Very concealable.

    -S&W SD9 or SD40- I don't have experience with these, but they are along the same lines as many other polymers on the market, but made slightly cheaper.

    Good luck in your pursuit! I would get to the range or gun shop and handle/shoot as many as you can before buying.
     
  7. Firearms4ever

    Firearms4ever New Member

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    I suggest you go to some local shops and ranges to try different firearms out. You should look for what feels the best to you and pretty much fits the bill. Another firearm to look for would be the Ruger SR9c. I have one and it's my go to handgun for everything. I strongly recommend it, because it's priced very very reasonably, functions well, slim in the grip, and I prefer Ruger. I've had only one issue with mine, which was me taking it apart and then not knowing how to put it back together, but Ruger's customer service was very nice to me and fixed her up for free. Not to mention I've contacted their customer support about how if I needed a certain part that wasn't specifically listed for sale on their website how to get it, and they responded within minutes saying all I had to do was contact them again for the part I needed and they would ship it to me.
     
  8. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    The LCP and the Kel-tec P3AT are not fun to shoot. The ammo is more expensive than the 9mm Luger. You wont practice with them and gain the skills you need. The light single stack 9mm pistols are a better choice but still more recoil than the bigger 9mm pistols. The grips may be too small for you to shoot comfortably. The Glock 19 might be the best choice of the ones you have listed but look at the Glock 26 too. I found most of the Glocks are a little too big for my hands. I have the Glock 36 which is a single stack 45ACP Slimline Compact. The grip is a little smaller because of the single stack. The Ruger SR9c has a smaller grip and would be about the same size as the G26. Depending on where you live, it comes with 2-10 rnd mags or 1-10 rnd mag and 1- 17 rnd mag. It would be best if you could shoot some pistols first either through friends or rentals. Make sure the pistol points naturally for you. If you have to bend or twist your wrist to make it line up, dont buy it. A pistol should be an extension of your arm and point just as you would point your finger.
     
  9. Olympus

    Olympus New Member

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    I will echo what JTJ said. Anything shooting .380 is not going to be a "fun gun" that you can plink with at the range. It's going to be uncomfortable and borderline painful to shoot.

    I always try to tell people to try to stick with one purpose for every gun they get. My experience is there is not "perfect" gun for all purposes. There's always something better suited for each purpose.
     
  10. SteelDirigible

    SteelDirigible New Member

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    I'm really liking what i'm hearing about the SR9c. Just from the research I'm liking that or the glock 19. time to go out to the gun shop and get a feel for some of these...

    I have a few friends that know more about this than I do that have guns etc so I'll have to see what they have that I can try out.
     
  11. Alchemist

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    Those are well-respected choices... Just be aware of the thickness difference between double-stacks and single stacks... For concealing, it makes more difference than you might think until you try it for awhile.
     
  12. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    I agree with the rest of the replies in the thread. One thing I will say is that if your looking at a S&W instead of the SD series I would recommend a M&P9 or 40c which is the compact. They are great shooting weapons, reliable, under $500 and feel pretty good in your hand. One con is that they are a bit bigger than some other weapons you have on your list.
     
  13. g17frantz

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    Glock 19 +1
    Perfect for ccw, inexpensive ammo and uber reliable. Can't go wrong. Go try before you buy if you can, if not...at least get a feel for all of them. Can I also suggest a 1911? Just sayin ........
     
  14. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    my first suggestion would be to try out as many as you can and find one that fits you. a handgun, especially a carry gun is very personal. carry as large a caliber that you can hit with accurately with, remember a hit with a 9mm is better than a miss with a 44mag.! don't buy a pistol just because your best friend swears by it and says it's the best one he has ever had. because what is best for me or someone else, may not be the best choice for you. if you have a range that rents pistols to try out, then go and try out some. a lot of pistols in a model also come in different calibers, so if you find one that fits well in your hand, but are not comfortable with say the 45acp, then try the same pistol in 40s-w or 9mm. i have several different one that i carry, SA XDM40, Astra A100 in 9mm, Taurus Tracker in 44 magnum, AC 1911 in 45acp and a Bersa Thunder 380. depends on my mood!
     
  15. therewolf

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    Hi SteelDirigible,

    Welcome to FTF.

    I would say it depends upon the amount of

    range time you want to enjoy with the gun.

    IMO you should start out with a 9mm.

    If you turn out to really need a CCW gun, maybe you should

    consider getting a separate pistol for that purpose.

    As to good starters, I'd find a good target 22LR,

    like a Ruger, Buckmark, or Hi-Standard with a 6 or 7 inch

    barrel. Great fun at the range, good beginner pistol, something

    you'll always enjoy shooting, and fun for anyone you bring to the

    range.

    A used Beretta 92FS or CZ75 are great all-purpose 9mms in your

    price range, and good for the range also,

    which you can carry in a pinch.
     
  16. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    anything you choose, give lots of thought to the 9mm, reasons are, ammo is cheaper so it would be a good round to practice with and loaded with good JHP ammo is a good sd round. but whichever caliber you choose, do lots of practicing with it and practice on a regular basis.
     
  17. SteelDirigible

    SteelDirigible New Member

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    i'm liking what i've read about the cz 75, gonna have to keep it on the radar as well.

    what are issues i might have that are different between say the cz75, the g19, and the sr9c? is it basically going to come down to how it feels in my hand, in which case i actually need to get my hands on one?
     
  18. nightstalkersDQ

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    Without a doubt, i Carry a Glock 30 but i have bigger then average hands. ive heard alot of people say they hate glocks because of the thicker grip but for me, the LCP is to small to fit comfortably in my hands. it really comes down to what Caliber your comfortable shooting and what size gun feels good in your hands.
     
  19. trex1310

    trex1310 New Member

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    Learn to shoot and shoot well.

    Make a decision about wheter or not you are willing to take
    someone's life. If not, you don't need a ccw permit or someone
    will take that gun away from you and kill you with it.

    You already have a weapon a lot of us don't have anymore,
    21 year old legs and feet. Use them instead of a gun when
    you can.

    Again, if you carry a gun know how and when to use it.

    End of sermon.
     
  20. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    I would have to agree what you choose is a matter of personal preference.

    For example, I have a S&W 645 type 45ACP.

    It has a decocker safety, which I prefer, and fits well in my hand.

    Many have never used a decocker, and you might not like what I use, either.

    I would try all three before you buy, if possible.