President Trump Takes Action On Mass Shootings

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  1. alsaqr

    alsaqr Well-Known Member Supporter

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    DJT wants social media to cooperate in detecting potential mass shooters.

    Following a weekend with two mass shootings, President Donald Trump directed the Department of Justice to work with local, state and federal agencies to work harder to find potential attackers. He also called on social media companies to "develop tools to detect mass shooters before they strike."

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    Trump also asked the FBI to identify what resources the agency needs to investigate and disrupt "hate crimes and domestic terrorism."

    Later in his speech, the president called for the end of the "glorification of violence," focusing on the video game industry and said mental health laws must be reformed. Trump also said he will direct the Department of Justice to propose legislation to treat hate crimes and mass shootings as capital crimes that can result in the death penalty.


    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techn...-shooters/ar-AAFni6H?li=BBnbfcL&OCID=AVRES000
     
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  2. Rifling82

    Rifling82 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Seems pretty logical to me
     
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  3. manta

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    And is supporting stricter laws.


     
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  4. Mercator

    Mercator Well-Known Member

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    I think he should consider raising the age limit to buy any semiauto rifle to at least 21. And classify the idiotic 50+ round AK drum mags, as well as the bump fire stocks, as destructive devices.
     
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  5. SRK97

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  6. SRK97

    SRK97 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    " tHe EiGhT yEaR aSsAuLt On YoUr sEcOnD aMeNdMeNt Is OvEr"

    Imagine being pro gun and still supporting trump at this point.
     
  7. sheepdawg

    sheepdawg Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I'm pro gun and I support Trump, what's the alternative, I'm all ears?????
     
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  8. SRK97

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    Are you though, supporting someone pushing on multiple occasions for increased gun control is not pro gun.
     
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  9. Mercator

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    If the so called liberals really cared about "saving lives", they would NOT have demonized this president to the point where any cooperation with him is a betrayal of humanity. When was the last time they said Mr President let's work something out. Not once. It's all "resistance". Now Trump has a great opportunity to seize the initiative on mass shootings, upstage the liberal demagogues who think they own the issue. Like he did on the Middle East. Let's roll Donald.
     
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  10. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Well-Known Member Supporter

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    What pro-gun candidate is stepping up to give DJT a primary challenge?

    I ain't writing in some leeeburtarun nobody has heard of on the second Tuesday of November 2020.
     
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  11. SRK97

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    That's what I'll do, because neither side has proven to be pro gun.
     
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  12. Mercator

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    With due respect to everyone's vote, who cares what Trump said or did before going into politics. Most of what he says even now is disposable. He says stuff to get things done, not for the court record. And strictly by what he does he is my man.
     
  13. Maser

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    Leave guns alone, leave 8Chan alone, leave video games alone, etc.
     
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  14. Rifling82

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    He seems to always have an alterior motive, that's why I never freak out about what he says
     
  15. Shopfox

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    At this point, I think annual mental health screenings for everyone is in order. Mental health checks should become as routine as teeth cleanings, and vision checks.

    I don't have a problem with all firearm transactions going through NICS, as long is it's made free for use, and there are no records of successful transactions kept.

    First step in keeping firearms away from loons is identifying who the loons are, and keeping them away from society at large. History of threatening to kill innocent people should be 1 criteria to land on the loon list.

    I'm a hard pass on banning certain features, guns, and magazines.
     
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  16. towboater

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    Trump 2020 Keep the USA great. Hey isn't this politics. lol
     
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  17. Mister Dave

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    There's a Pandora's box. Pretty expensive one too.
     
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  18. Shopfox

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    I wonder how much could be done just through an online screening tool. Not everyone needs couch time. Just questions like, "have you been fired from a job in the last year? Do you ever think about suicide? Have you ever made a rape/kill list?

    I do agree with you, the potential abuse / Pandora's box aspect is a real concern.
     
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  19. Mister Dave

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    A coupla few points on that....

    Not everyone has a yearly eye or dental exam. Quite a few less than one might imagine.

    A large number of people aren't going to answer those proposed questions honestly, particularly if they have an agenda to hide. As it is we're in a fight to get everyone to answer if they're legal citizens in a census - something we used to ask without much protest.

    A number of mental health professionals are also in therapy themselves. They can't be trusted to evaluate you.

    Red flag laws, as Trump is now considering will take the say-so of other people. Who will qualify to decide you're a danger to the public is difficult to know. It has all the earmarks of Soviet population control. Don't make waves or the KGB will pay you a visit.

    The Florida school shooter (for example) would likely have skated under a red flag law because of a board of education program that shielded him from the kind of criminal record he earned. There will likely be many examples of this going forward.
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    I might favor red flag laws in theory, but when one considers how it will be implemented and enforced, it starts to look like another socialist tool.

    I'm a little disappointed that Trump said what he said about it, but if he thinks anything like I do he knows it's not really going anywhere. Meanwhile he gets credit for saying it.

    We'll see......
     
  20. Shopfox

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    It's kind of like the NICS questionnaire. I wonder how many people tick the box that they are a user of an illegal substance... yet, it does screen a few. Definitely won't stop the evil (terrorist type), but may stop the delusional/crazy/irrational.

    At least here in Ohio, when you renew your drivers license, there is a vision screening. That'd probably be the best chance at doing a short, online mental health questionnaire. A general questionnaire would nullify the individual troubled mental health professional.
     
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