Presciption glasses and shooting - question

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by kirbinster, Mar 31, 2013.

  1. kirbinster

    kirbinster New Member

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    I wear glasses for distance, but only use them when driving. But I find that when I wear them now that I am just North of 50 I have difficulty focusing on close objects. When I want to check my phone I take them off to be able to see things clearly. So, my question is what should I do when shooting. I have been wearing the glasses so I can see the target accurately but I am not able to focus very well on the front sight. I can see it fine, but it is not sharp - does that matter. I tried shooting today with plain safety glasses instead. Doing that I can focus sharply on the sights but the target is kind of fuzzy. So, which option do you think is better?
     
  2. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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  3. HOSSFLY

    HOSSFLY New Member

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    Been wearing glasses for distance & shooting over 40 yrs-
    Long story short- I want to see what i'm shooting at clearly-
     
  4. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister New Member

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    When you sharply focus on the front sight, the object will naturally becoming fuzzy. It is not your eyesight, it is your humanity. No worries. I focus on the object first, then on the front sights. Remember to point your thumbs at the target to help keep the gun straight.
     
  5. kirbinster

    kirbinster New Member

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    Thanks, but I think it is the eyes not being able to focus up close with the distance glasses on. I know that starting about three or four years ago I noticed that I was taking them off when I wanted to read a text or email on my phone. I guess it does not matter how sharp the front sight is if I am focusing on it rather than the target -- I think?
     
  6. MattShlock

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    I love the internet...

    The correct answer is that the front sight is what you focus on. Shooting A Rifle: 101. Sorry. For the rest of y'all; Granpappy's Lesson One fer shootin'.

    The target will be out-of-focus fuzzy. Young people can focus back and forth so quickly on both front sight and target that mentally it is as though they are simultaneously focusing on both. That slows down with age as does the ability to focus at both long and close distance in any case. You need to see the front sight clearly. The rear sight will appear ghostly (as in ghost ring sight) and the target will not be sharp. By the way, this is why optics are used more as one ages and for super-precision shooting all the time -- with them anyone can easily see both target and "sight" (dot or crosshairs) in sharp focus, maybe even magnified.

    And before somebody twangs "but ya hasta know whats yer shooting at"... Yeah, that's right.
     
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  7. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Concentrate of front sight.
    I have a pair of shooting glasses that are bifocal in nature, but the reading/front sight distance is clear (cost a little bit, but worth it). The top portion is for "far" to identify the target, then I transition to the front sight.
    I do not have lines (progressive), so the target does not "jump".

    They also work great on the computer.
     
  8. MattShlock

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    Danf_fl;
    The problem there is that you should be looking through the center of the lens at the front sight. With your head tilted downward on the rifle (or shotgun) stock shooting-specific eyeglasses (frames and prescription lenses) are designed to ride high on the face -- the bridge of the nose is farther down vs. standard frames where they are usually about level with the temples. See below. Regular frames/lenses only work with offhand pistol and even there bifocals are not ideal...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ786SEM3Yg
     
  9. trip286

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    Just try several different methods and stick with what works best for you. It ain't that complicated.
     
  10. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    I've got a pair of shooting glasses set up for what they call "monovision".

    Dominant eye has a lens that brings the front sight in crystal clear. Non
    dominant eye has a distance lens.

    Takes me about 15 minutes to get used to them on match day (I normally
    wear varilux no line bi-focals).

    Sounds like in your case your regular prescription to see the target, and
    a clear lens for the front sight?

    I'm on the high side of 60----and these glasses are what has kept me
    competitive is USPSA iron sight divisions.
     
  11. Sniper03

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    I have trifocals. But you are supposed to focus on the front sight and the target and rear sight should be a little blurry. That is the proper technique for shooting iron sights!

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  12. KJG67

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    As for your vision - hell to get old. I would look at progressive lenses (bi/tri focals graduated across the lens). I'm near sighted, can't see a damn thing far, and got to the point I couldn't read the small print on bottles anymore either. Some people have a hard time with progressive lenses making the transition, but I took to them quick and love them. An eye doctor can explain it to you better. Sighting advice as others have noted.
     
  13. danf_fl

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    True, The extra money spent to have my glasses modified so front sight is clear was well worth it. (Though a PITA for the eye doctor).

    I do not seem to have any problems with scoped rifles, open sights, or shotgun. I bring the handgun up to my sight versus bringing my sight to the handgun.

    I only tilt my head downward to verifiy target, then up to have sights centered. With no bifocal lines, the target does not move or "jump".

    For driving, or other activities, I use my regular trifocals.
     
  14. JWagner

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    At one time, I had a job involving bench work and computer usage. I got a pair of glasses that focused at arms length. They did well at work and are the preferred glasses for shooting, too. Yes, I am over 60.
     
  15. johnr43

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    Progressive HD lens.
     
  16. SSGN_Doc

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    Excellent answer.

    The human eye can only truely focus at one distance at a time and as we get older the ability to shift focal planes slows down, the medical term is "Presbyopia" (loosely translates to 'old vision').

    Identify your target first, then focus on the front sight.
     
  17. Jagermeister

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    There you go sir, some of us are saying target acquire, then focus on front sight. Just like binoculars, we have to adjust focus at different lengths. This is what shooting instructors will tell you to do as a basic anyways.:cool: My right eye is starting to blur. Seems that things start to fall apart after 40. Well at least we are still alive and kicking!
     
  18. John_Deer

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    My vision is going downhill. I tried a scope and it does ok for game that is undisturbed but I like to hear a pack of hounds hot on a deer or rabbit. Scopes do not work so well when all you have is split second when the game crosses a logging path or a powerline. In the woods you have shoot into an opening. Once again the scope lets me down. Then I got a Mosin Nagant that forced me to shoot with open sights. Each time I did something to improve the accuracy of the 91/30 I took it out to see if the gun shoots any better. Next thing you know I was shooting stuff at longer distances than I had ever tried before with iron sights. I think some practice will do the trick for you.

    In the event you end up at an opthamologist get a pair of safety glasses made for shooting. Some ranges insist that shooters use safety glasses despite the fact that a well made pair of eyeglasses are stronger than the cheapo plastic safety glasses they sell for $7.
     
  19. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    At service rifle and service pistol matches I defer to the wisdom of the shooters who have earned Distinguished Marksamnship badges for winning enough competitions to do so. All the top shooters told me teh same thing, "Make the front sight sharp and crisp in your vision throught the whole shot." "Old" retired guys still kick my butt at fleet matches, and regionals. I haven't won a rifle from the Secretary of the Navy yet, while some of those guys have a few.
     
  20. HockaLouis

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    Yeah, one national competition I shot in the guy next to me was on the Coastie Rifle Team. He borrowed some team-mates rifle for this match. He'd said he never shot it before and still beat me. Not by much, but still... Actually, I think he medaled. The bastard. LOL