Powder Recommendations

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by Rifling82, Aug 8, 2020.

  1. Double20

    Double20 Active Member

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    I don't reload for .45. I use H110 for full power .44 magnum loads and Universal for .44 magnum loads for plinking that are almost as light as a .44 special load. Also use Universal for 20 gauge target loads. Use Longshot for heavier 20 gauge hunting loads. Use BL-C(2) for .308. That's all I reload for currently. Use to use H414 when I reloaded for .30-06. Very accurate combo.
     
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  2. Notrighty

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    Ok if I must. Actually at my standard load I would get approximately 220 more rounds using Bullseye over Unique. That’s nothing to sneeze at.
     
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  3. formerCav

    formerCav Well-Known Member

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    CHRONOGRAPHED LOADS using an Oehler 35P

    1) with an M1A Springfield in 7.62 Nato.
    ONce fired LC brass from scharch mfg.
    Large rifle winchester brand primers (standard)
    150 Hornady brand BTSP bullets
    45.0 grains of varget brand powder
    HIgh 2755, LOW 2710, AVG 2722 Spread 45 Std Dev 18


    Very Accurate Load, tight groups, 1 in with IRON sights and 62 year old eyes!

    2) Radway green 1985 same rifle 2699 (one round only)
    3) Load as above ( in load number 1) but through a FAL SAR 48 Match rifle


    High 2736, LOW 2696, AVG 2721 Spread 40 Std Dev 17

    4) FAL SAR 48 Match rifle
    Radway Green 1985
    High 2824, Low 2786, AVG 2801, Spread 38 Std Dev 20
    CAVIM 1990
    High 2666, Low 2633, AVG 2645, Spread 33 Std Dev 13


    These are both very accurate and are TIGHT groups. 1 in at 100 or less!!
    Wish I had 100 cases of each!


    5) M1A Springfield in 7.62 Nato
    Remington Peters Nickel Brass (easier to find in the grass)
    CCI # 34 (magnum rated) primers
    44.5 Grains Varget
    High 2761, Low 2742, AVG 2751 Spread 19 Std Dev 9


    6) CAVIM 1990 dated
    High 2716, Low 2699, AVG 2710, spread 17 Std Dev 9
    Very accurate as above in the FAL


    6A) M1A Springfiled in 7.62 Nato. Nov 20, 2018 Measured with Toms radar unit. 20 rounds each load

    Lake City Brass Once fired from Scharch, 150 BTSP Hornady bullets, Standard Large Rifle Winchester brand primers, and 45.0 grains of varget. A very accurate load.
    Average 2778, Extreme spread 57, Standard Deviation 16, High 2807, FPS Low 2752,
    (Nato load spec is 2760.) this is for TWENTY rounds.

    Below is the results of the Radway Green Surplus Nato loads that are 147 grain FMJ bullets
    Average 2757, Extreme Spread 126, Standard Deviation 40, High 2802, Low 2676, TWENTY rounds.


    7) Bulgarian Makarov
    Sellier and Bellot ammo
    910 (one round with me only... too bad)



    8) Wolf brand for above

    High 1071 Low 1049, AVG 1057 Spread 22 Std Dev 11

    9) Savage Rifle, bolt, 1 in 8 twist Kreiger SS barrel 6.5 x .284
    Lapua Brass
    Lg Rifle Winchester Brand standard primer
    142 Sierra Match King MOLY coated
    48.3 Grains Hodgdon 4831 SC
    High 2735, LOW 2687, AVG 2716, Spread 48, Std Dev 25

    10) Savage Rifle, Bolt, 1 in 9.25 savage barrel .243 winchester
    R/P Nickel Brass
    Standard Large Rifle Winchester Brand primers
    75 Grain Hornady Brand VMAX MOLY coated
    39.7 grains Varget
    High 3308, Low 3212, AVG 3272, Spread 96 Std Dev 52



    11) AK type 56 Poly tech 7.62 x 39
    Chicom copper washed bullets 1967 dated
    High 2374, Low 2345, Avg 2357, Spread 29, Std Dev 10

    12) Savage Rifle, Bolt, 25-06 savage barrel (shot out in 750 rounds!!)
    R/P Nickel Brass
    Standard large rifle Winchester brand primers
    117 grains Sierra BT MOLY coated
    40.8 Varget
    High 2747, Low 2734, AVG 2706 Spread 46, Std Dev 23
    This was the most WORTHLESS caliber I have ever owned. It became the 6.5 x .284

    13) YUGO M48 8 mm Mauser Bolt rifle.. from Ames for about $89 way back when
    8MM Turk surplus ammo 1944 date brass case on stripper clips
    Unassembled.. bullet weights 155.0, 154.9, 154.0, 154.0, and 153.9
    Powder is flake type weighs 49.1, 48.9, 49.2, 49.1 and 49.1 (pretty consistent)
    High 2836, Low 2800 AVG 2815 Spread 36, Std Dev 17

    14) Romanian Ammo 1972 date, painted laquered green steel case (for above rifle)
    High 2621, Low 2602, AVG 2608, Spread 19, Std Dev 07

    15) |AR 15 DPMS 1 in 8 twist “service rifle” for NRA highpower
    LC Brass
    Standard small rifle Winchester brand primers
    77 grain sierra match king MOLY coated
    24.5 grains Varget
    High 2667, LOW 2600, AVG 2633, Spread 67 Std Dev 26

    16) Colt Govt Model 1911 in 45
    MIXED brass
    Large Standard Pistol Winchester brand primers
    200 grain semi wad cutter bevel based
    5.7 grains of Winchester #231 powder
    High 855, Low 827, Avg 845, Spread 28, Std Dev 10

    Same pistol, PMC brand factory loads 230 BALL FMJ
    High 826, Low 797, Avg 806, Spread 29, Std Dev 11



    This is through a Oehler 35 P Chronograph and is about 8 years worth of data
    Sadly, I’ve sold lots of these weapons. Just don’t have enough room for them and I've had a triple bypass, 2 heart attacks and a stent so I got rid of a lot of stuff so my wife does not have to deal with it.

    Dec 12, 2014 (below)
    A friend and I went out to table mesa yesterday.
    Looks like nobody is obeying the signs about taking up your trash.
    any how... here is some load data through a Oehler 35P chronograph
    38 SPCL through a model 64, 4 inch, double action only round butt SS from J&G sales for $279 (recently)
    4.7 grains of Winchester 231 powder with winchester brand standard small pistol primers in remington brass, 158 Grain Lead SWC.
    High 928
    Low 875
    Spread 53
    Average 903
    Standard Deviation 17

    This is a nice accurate load. Probably a 38+P load is my guess.



    44SPCL through a model 396 S&W 3 inch barrel, round butt, SS, target sights. Bought NEW many years ago.

    All bullets Montana Gold brand 240 Grain Jacketed, flat point with lead exposed. (not really a hollow point)

    With 5.5 Grains of WIn 231, Standard Large pistol winchester primers, Mixed cases. (Win and Rem and Starfire)
    H 666
    L 622
    SPD 44
    A 642
    SD 16
    As above but with 6.0 grain of Win 231
    H 720
    L 664
    SPD 56
    A 692
    SD 22
    As above but with 6.5 Grains of Win 231
    H 776
    L 755
    SPD 21
    A 762
    SD 11
    These were 5 round groups for the 44. 6 rounds for the 38.
    The last load barks harder then does my 45 auto with 230 FMJ at 850 FPS.

    I didn't get to test my 7.62 Nato loads as a sky screen upright shattered.........WHEN WE WERE DONE SHOOTING.... go figure.! I think they got hard and brittle in this Phoenix climate even though I keep it all in the house in an Air Conditioned room.

    My friend shot his 55 grain PMC .223 and it was 3095 FPS.

    Mar 11, 2016
    M1A Springfield IMR 4064 powder tests as I haven’t been able to buy Varget for about 4 years now.!
    1st load is SURPLUS R&G for benchmark
    High 2813, Low 2781, ES 32 Avg 2795 Dev 13

    IMR 4064 43.5 Grains, Std Large Rifle Winchester brand primers, ONCE fired Brass L/C

    H 2790, L 2722, ES 68 AVG 2761 SD 27
    IMR 4064 44.0 Grains, same brass and primers
    H 2835, L 27798, ES 57, Avg 2814, SD 22

    45 Auto Kimber with 5 inch barrel. Kimber Polymer Target
    Golden Sabre 230 GR HP R/P brand case (factory load)
    H 857 L 842, E 15, A 850, D 6 VERY accurate

    Speer GOLD Dot 230 GDHP (factory load)
    H 874 L 854, E 20, A 864, D 8 VERY accurate as above.

    More for 45 Auto Kimber with 5 inch barrel, Kimber Polymer Target
    WIN 231 5.4 Grains 230 BALL (precision brand bullets)
    A 757 E 42 SD 13

    Factory Remington JHP 230 A 824 E 52 SD12
    Tom WIN FMJ 230 Grain 5.4 Grains N310 A 811 E 37 SD 11

    Tom Zero JHP 185 Grain 4.1 Grains N310 A769 E 52 SD 21

    Factory Speer Gold Dot 230 JHP A 849 E 28 SD 9
    Factory Hornady Critical Duty 220 JHP A 1009 E 19 SD 6.7

    12/21/2018 (below)
    Through M1A Springfiled. Trying to NOT get black and blue from blood thinners after heart work!! Downloaded.
    I loaded up 20 rounds of 125 speer TNT bullets, used 42.0 grains of IMR 4064, LC brass once fired, and a standard large rifle winchester brand primer.
    DId this on my dillon 550 b press.
    62 degrees, slightly overcast, and virtually no wind.
    Hi 2602, Lo 2556 Spread 46 Average 2579 Std Deviation 18

    With M1A Springfield. STILL TOO HOT for my bruised up shoulder. Sold the rifle.

    1/31/2020
    With SAR 48 Rifle
    125 Speer TNT bullets, 42.0 grains IMR 4064, LC Brass once fired, and and a standard large rifle winchester brand primer.
    DId this on my dillon 550 b press.
    69 degrees, slightly overcast, and 5 to 20 MPH winds going from left to right, (south to north)

    2600 to 2650 through Don’s chrony. NO Bruises. LOVE that FAL
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    357 Magnum through 686 with factory comped barrel 6 inch
    125 Jacketed soft point
    7.5 grains tite group
    Small standard pistol primers Winchester brand
    1186 to 1220 through Don’s chrony

    357 Magnum through 686 with factory comped barrel 6 inch
    200 grain (YES 200 grain bullets) Speer TMJ
    9.0 grains of Alliant 2400
    Winchester standard small pistol primers
    690-770 through Don’s Chrony

    357 Magnum through 686 with factory comped barrel 6 inch
    GECO factory loads 158 grain JHP
    1190, 1245, 1211, 1222,1230 through Don’s Chrony
     
  4. Mowgli Terry

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    For my 1911 with target WC's it a toss up between 231 and Bullseye. I have shot many of rounds made mainly with BE. This powder gives excellent accuracy without undue recoil for long life of a very good handgun.
     
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