powder measure

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by texaswoodworker, May 13, 2012.

  1. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    I recently started reloading for 7.62 Nagant, and have really gotten the hang of it, but it takes a really long time to do 50 rds with the standard scale/scoop process. I was looking online and saw that lee makes a perfect powder measure that goes by volume instead of weight. They're pretty cheap at $20. Does anyone have any experience with it? Are there any better ones around the same price (or up to $40-$50)?
    What is the typical process when using one of these powder measures? Do you still check it with the scale?
    Since the ammo is for a Nagant revolver, the powder does not have to be super precise.

    Thanks
     
  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    Aaron, i have one, and find i'm nost using it as much as i use to. it works pretty good with some powders, but not so good with some. depends on what shape the powder is. what i use a lot of now, are the LEE powder scoops. buy the set and try those out. they are really inexpensive and i have had good luck with them.
     

  3. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    The powder I'm using is IMR Trail Boss, so it's like doughnut shaped flakes.

    Thanks, I'll buy some and try them out. $10 is not bad at all. :D
     
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  4. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    your welcome. if you buy LEE dies, they come with one in the set along with a shellholder. most other brands you have to buy the shellholder separate and they range from about $5-10 each. most o the die sets i buy now are the LEE's and they work really well and are very easy to setup and adjust. just something to consider next time you need to buy dies for another caliber.

    BTW, when are going to do another conference call? send me a PM, or give me a call at the house sometime.
     
  5. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    My dies are lee dies, and so far I love them. :D

    The powder scoop that came with it is a little big though. I'll probably still get the set so I can figure out what size is the best for my loads (3 gr).

    As for the conference call, we are going to try again pretty soon. I'll let you know what week were going to try to do it on.
     
  6. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    sounds good. i too like the LEE dies. great products.

    i sent you an email. holler at you later.
     
  7. fmj

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    I am a huge proponent of Lee equipment. I have all Lee carbide dies, Lee turret press, etc etc.

    That being typed, i dislike the Lee powder measure. Its inconsistent at best when throwing charges. Not bad Unique, a little better with IMR 4227, a little worse with 2400 but WAY off with IMR 4895.

    So i throw every charge into the pan that came with my Lee beam scale (dont much care for the scale either, too easy to bump and no way to lock in the charge you want) and toss on the digi scales...then i use one of the dippers that came with my dies to either scoop some out of the pan or trickle some in to make weight. Slightly time consuming depending on the powder used, but i am SURE of my charge in every round.
     
  8. Staestc

    Staestc New Member

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    I got the RCBS Uniflow powder measure with my kit, and I am very happy with it so far. It's fast and accurate, at least to the 10th of a grain, and infinitely adjustable. But they are about $70 if you buy one by itself. Regardless, I check the weight of about each 10th charge when I am loading, and have never had any noticeable variation once I get it set. Of course I have no experience with anything other than Unique and W231 so far, so it might not be so great with other powders.
     
  9. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I trust powder measures from Redding and RCBS.
     
  10. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    As someone who loads with Trail Boss, your gonna want to use the lee powder scoop set.. Im sure the one that came with the dies are for a certain powder(s)...
     
  11. noylj

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    I have the Perfect Powder Measure:
    1) It feels flimsy--all plastic
    2) It meters very consistently
    3) It leaks with some fine powders, but if you disassemble the measure, clean it out, and re-assemble with more tension, it works. Even when it leaks, it is still very consistent. Put paper below it to collect any leaking powder and pour it back into the hopper. Do NOT tighten the tension with powder leaking--you'll only make things worse and could damage the interface of the cones.
    4) Run a hopper full of graphitized powder or even straight graphite powder to coat the measure's internals
    5) As time passes, the two cones that rub together will "mesh" together better and better and leaking will be reduced/eliminated
    6) The first rule with ALL Lee equipment is follow every direction and suggestion they make. Too many don't read directions and have problems that would have been eliminated if they just the instructions and heeded them.
    You can also make your own "custom" dipper for your load.
     
  12. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I guess I consider the powder measure and scale the most critical parts of the reloading process.

    I would avoid LEE on either. That's not to say that I don't use LEE products, just that when it comes to critical items, I want the very best, not the cheapest.

    Get a scale and powder measure from Redding or /RCBS.

    Most of the time, the most expensive item on the shelf ends up being the cheapest in the long run.
     
  13. hiwall

    hiwall Well-Known Member

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    Though I have, and often use a Redding powder measure, there is nothing wrong with dippers. All measures work by volume, same as a dipper.
     
  14. cliffspot

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    LEE perfect works fine. Dillion is a very good powder drop system. I have used both extensively and am very satisfied with their performance. Trail boss is usually accurate +/- .4 grains in most measures. If you can detect the difference in a load that is .4 grains more than normal....well I sure wanna shake your hand Mr Gazoo!
     
  15. therewolf

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    I really like my Dillon scale.

    The Lyman 500 it replaced is now just for

    double-checking. The Dillon is so much clearer,

    especially with the smaller loads.

    I was fortunate to catch an entire box of double loads

    from the Lyman, it's so easy to confuse 5 & 10 grain

    increments.

    My powder hopper is a relic I'm sure was used by

    Alfred Nobel before the Earth's crust cooled. So I'm

    also looking for a dependable powder measure...
     
  16. Overkill0084

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    IMHO, the Lee Perfect Powder Measure is a great idea that was executed too cheaply. If all I used was Bullseye, it would be fine, except for the leakage. Unique, well that's something else entirely, +/- .3 gr on a good day just doesn't cut it. The leakage isn't a huge deal, but it is annoying. If one dials up the tension, it becomes a stiff bastard to use, and it still leaks. I'd like to see someone build the LEE in metal to see if that fixes all the "quirks." Simply because something can be made to work, doesn't make it the best possible solution. If I want "quirkiness," I'll buy a classic British car. I ended up buying a Redding 3BR & a Pistol chamber for it. It simply just works without the whole song & dance.
     
  17. Nickwashere

    Nickwashere New Member

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    Wouldn't metal be dangerous due to static electricity?
     
  18. tri70

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    I have one that works well, I leave the handle in the up position after the case is charged. That way the new charge settles in for the next case. Mine does not leak but it does better with ball powders over stick.
     
  19. Overkill0084

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    Plastic has a bigger issue w/ static than cast iron. It's really only an issue in the hopper. With the powder cling to the walls & such, and it's pretty common with all of them. Hence the "wipe with a bounce sheet" recommendation.
    FWIW, Smokeless powder isn't really that sensitive. The RCBS, Lyman & Redding are all made of metal, and have been for decades.
     
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  20. Nickwashere

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    That makes sense, thanks for the info :)