powder in deep freeze

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by mikem1959, Apr 28, 2013.

  1. mikem1959

    mikem1959 New Member

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    my buddy stores his gun powder in deep freeze and suggest i do the same,he says its dry in there and safe from fire.I like the idea but thought the cold might be bad for powder.he also stores his ammo in there.
     
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  2. hiwall

    hiwall Well-Known Member

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    Well you certainly don't need to store it there. Don't really see a problem doing so but there is no real advantage either.
     

  3. rhyno13

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    Depending on how much its taken in and out, condensation will eventually make it unusable.
     
  4. MattShlock

    MattShlock New Member

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    Doubt it's bad other than possibly breaking the grains into slightly smaller particles on average due to any moisture crystalization. A refrigerator might be better. But transportation does that too. Other than that entropy will be delayed which is positive. That's REALLY storing it in a cool, dry, dark, place but sounds like way overkill and not necessary (unless maybe you live on the Equator).

    Does he ever mention "precious bodily fluids"?
     
  5. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    the bigger problem i see is when it's brought back to room temperature when you decide to use it. possible moisture contamination from condensation, bringing it from a frozen state to warmer environment.

    personally i will keep storing mine out of direct sunlight and in cool dry area. i just don't any advantage.
     
  6. mikem1959

    mikem1959 New Member

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    so no problem?

    I have a deep freeze in the basement near my reload bench.it would be handy to keep it in there,also i would pull out 1lb at a time,so no in and out.basement is humid i would like to do this if it is not bad for powder or primers
     
  7. mseric

    mseric New Member

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    Yup, condensation!
    I would not do it.
     
  8. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    a warmer humid environment could cause even more condensation. moisture contamination will ruin the powder.
     
  9. bigjim

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    I doubt that he has a wooden frig and storing powder in a metal container is a no-no. Tell him to read the safety standards for storing powder. Most deep freezers have a locking latch, this just makes it a big bomb.

    Jim
     
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  10. mikem1959

    mikem1959 New Member

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    no bomb

    how can condensation get in a deep freeze?the powder would come out in 1lb sealed cans unopened till up to room temp then used up.the door to verticle freezer is not locked and open easily.no kids in house.
     
  11. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    maybe, maybe not. it's your powder so do as you please. you were asking for input and that was mine. honestly, in all the years i have been around firearms and reloaders, it's the very first time i have ever heard of storing powder in a freezer.
     
  12. mikem1959

    mikem1959 New Member

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    thanx

    axe,thank you for your input! I like my friends idea and would like to use it if it is not harmful to powder or primers.seems like a firesafe storage,and handy for my storade needs.
     
  13. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    even thought the powder container is sealed, it going from cold to warm, the container can still form condensation on the inside possibly.

    IMO, i don't think it's a good idea. i live in a very humid part of Texas, and we have never had a problem with our powders. my father use to reload, i reload and have several friends that reload and to date have not had any problems with moisture.
     
  14. JWagner

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    I do put certain chemical goodies into a refrigerator to extend the shelf life. But I would not bother with freezing gunpowder. There are two reasons. If 40 year old milsurp ammo still works well after being treated roughly, it tells me that gunpowder is pretty stable stuff. The other reason is that bringing a freezing container out into a warm, humid room will attract condensation to the powder container; it must remain closed until it reaches room temperature to prevent condensation getting onto the powder itself.
     
  15. mikem1959

    mikem1959 New Member

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    fireproof

    the reason i am considering this is for fire saftey...i have a freezer close to reloading bench....if the cold temp is not detramental to powder,primers,or loaded ammo it would make things easy for me.again no in and out of freezer,and every thing brought to room temp before unsealing.
     
  16. bigjim

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    Air in the 1 lbs, 4 lbs and 8 lbs containers has moisture in it. All air contains water vapor. When you drop the tempature of the area that the container is in, it forms ice cristals. This is general indicated as freezer burn. When taken out and brought to room tempature it turns back first to liquid water and then depening on the tempature back into vapor.

    What effect this has on powder and primers, I can not say, but it certianly is not good on concrete, rocks or any other solid objects.

    If you read the instructions on the containers of powder, it says to store in a "COOL, DRY PLACE", not a "COLD, DRY PLACE".

    Jim
     
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